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Re: New CS/Civilian Blanket and CS Canteen Slings IN STOCK!
Does this make anyone else want to beat their head against the wall a couple times to forget this junk?
Does this make anyone else want to beat their head against the wall a couple times to forget this junk?
Originally posted by Citizen_Soldier
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Dan,
If someone's livelihood and means of supporting thier family is reproducing historic artifacts, then they should research they items they are making reproductions of instead of using mainstream sutler logic in order to justify the sale of thier goods. There has been many contributers into this discussion, but still I haven't seen any solid material that would suggest to me that blankets in the configuration you are selling would be acceptable for use by those attempting to authentically portray a mid 19th century soldier or civilian.
The references shared are interesting, but the blankets being offered by your company lack end stripes that were prevalent on the specific original blanket descriptions and photos being shared. How does the selvage of your company's reproduction blanket compare with that of original military blankets in collections? In addition the material with origins to Ryan Weddle is great, but it isn't specific enough in my opinion to draw the conclusion that it justifies the use of two yards of uncut unfinished wool Kersey blankets as miliary.
The account of Kersey blankets being cut from the roll that was shared earlier in the thread, what color were they? What were their dimensions? Were they made of fabric with a much narrow width than what is typical today and possibly seamed together?
Does anyone have any probate records, examples with provenance, or solid with a doubt photographs of this type of blanket being used in numbers by the civilian population? If not, how can we state that these are acceptable for civilian usage. How can you accurately state that the "originals" in your collection are from the period of the Rebellion if there's no documentation of their usage? Just because something is old, it doesn't mean it dated to the mid 19th century....the examples in your collection may be from ca. 1910 for all we know.
So if I go by the logic shared by some contributers to this thread....if I find an old pair of wool suit trousers in a trunk I can automatically begin making and marketing them as reproductions because...they're old and that makes them appropriate to the Rebellion era, they are made of wool and since trousers of the Rebellion period are sometimes wool and it's a sturdy fabric...it's cool to use them for Civil War living history, and they have pockets, trousers from the period have pockets...so they have to be mid-19th century, not only that but since they don't follow any documented pattern they are perfect to use for a CS/civilian impression and since such a small example extant material culture exists from the rebellion, anyone can't claim they weren't used because here is a manifest saying trousers were issued from "something small and local depot" in 1863. This is really silly, as these trousers could date to ca. 1940 and still be acceptable to authentically minded living history interpreters by using this logic.
Darrek Orwig
If someone's livelihood and means of supporting thier family is reproducing historic artifacts, then they should research they items they are making reproductions of instead of using mainstream sutler logic in order to justify the sale of thier goods. There has been many contributers into this discussion, but still I haven't seen any solid material that would suggest to me that blankets in the configuration you are selling would be acceptable for use by those attempting to authentically portray a mid 19th century soldier or civilian.
The references shared are interesting, but the blankets being offered by your company lack end stripes that were prevalent on the specific original blanket descriptions and photos being shared. How does the selvage of your company's reproduction blanket compare with that of original military blankets in collections? In addition the material with origins to Ryan Weddle is great, but it isn't specific enough in my opinion to draw the conclusion that it justifies the use of two yards of uncut unfinished wool Kersey blankets as miliary.
The account of Kersey blankets being cut from the roll that was shared earlier in the thread, what color were they? What were their dimensions? Were they made of fabric with a much narrow width than what is typical today and possibly seamed together?
Does anyone have any probate records, examples with provenance, or solid with a doubt photographs of this type of blanket being used in numbers by the civilian population? If not, how can we state that these are acceptable for civilian usage. How can you accurately state that the "originals" in your collection are from the period of the Rebellion if there's no documentation of their usage? Just because something is old, it doesn't mean it dated to the mid 19th century....the examples in your collection may be from ca. 1910 for all we know.
So if I go by the logic shared by some contributers to this thread....if I find an old pair of wool suit trousers in a trunk I can automatically begin making and marketing them as reproductions because...they're old and that makes them appropriate to the Rebellion era, they are made of wool and since trousers of the Rebellion period are sometimes wool and it's a sturdy fabric...it's cool to use them for Civil War living history, and they have pockets, trousers from the period have pockets...so they have to be mid-19th century, not only that but since they don't follow any documented pattern they are perfect to use for a CS/civilian impression and since such a small example extant material culture exists from the rebellion, anyone can't claim they weren't used because here is a manifest saying trousers were issued from "something small and local depot" in 1863. This is really silly, as these trousers could date to ca. 1940 and still be acceptable to authentically minded living history interpreters by using this logic.
Darrek Orwig
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