Authentic Ramrods

[Jalaco]

So, I've discovered that most ramrods that are sold with a musket are case hardended. Is there any place on earth that sells ramrods that are not case hardended and are just one, solid metal rod? If it matters much, it would have to fit a euroarms '61 springfield.

[Yellowhammer Rebel]

Re: Authentic Ramrods

http://www.northeasttradeco.com/

These guys MAY have what your looking for, not sure though. I remember, faintly, a discussion about rods with him.

Hope this helps,

[Camp_Randall]

Re: Authentic Ramrods

Jory;

I don't think you understand what case hardening is. The process would make the ramrod very hard but brittle, which is exactly opposite of what you would want. As far as I know no one does this. If you mean they are two piece rods, which is what the Italians do, well that's something different. As for a one piece ramrod, I'm quite pleased with mine from Lodgewood. I have an Armi Sport, but I don't think that matters.

Tim Surprenant

[Gallo de Cielo]

Re: Authentic Ramrods

Shiloh Relics should be your first stop.

[Jalaco]

Re: Authentic Ramrods

Tim, my musket is an Italian Euroarm. I knew they were 2 piece, but I also thought that they were case hardened as well. Mess up on my part, thank you for the info though!

[Curt Schmidt]

Re: Authentic Ramrods

Hallo!

Correct. Case hardening is a metal surface hardening process commonly seen on Period arms, frames, lockplates, and hammers. (in brief and to over generalize, it imparts carbon into the surface of the steel). Its brother is color case hardening which does the same but allows a color change to make visually pleasing color patterns on the surface of the steel.)

The problem with Italin two piece ramrods is that they are just sleeve joined and brazed, and not pinned in any way. As a result, they tend to bend... and then snap at the "weld" joint. Especially when stacking and unstackng arms.
No one makes a pinned version, so the next best thing is to go with a lathe-turned "one piece" version.

Plus the Italian repro Enfields benefit from a replacement ramrod closer to originals with a diameter smaller than the oversized repro's.

Curt

[verg]

Re: Authentic Ramrods

Dear Friends,

I had one of the 2 piece repops come apart as Herr Schmidt describes. I took it to Robert Hoyt and he machined a new tip, fitted it to the remains of the original ramrod. The repair is only observable under close scrutiny and he charged a measly $20 for the entire job, machining the new tip and all. He also make complete replacement ramrods but I do not know what he charges for them.

He contact info is in this earlier post: http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/...arrels-Repairs

Hope this helps.

John

[SoMD Swamprat]

Re: Authentic Ramrods

All,

I just picked up a very nice M-1816 rod from Track of the Wolf (www.trackofthewolf.com) for thirty bucks. They don't carry any for the .58s, but for any of you with a '16, Charleville , or Bess theirs is a much better ramrod than Pedersoli's at a good price.

Jim Ball