Fellows,
I ask this question in all seriousness and hope to get good educated answers and not just the "I agree" or such trivial comments just so you can add to your post total.
Is there a copy of the "Revised Hardee's" (aka Goetzels, etc.) that is printed with the adaptations for the musket. The copy that I have (and it is a photocopy of a Goetzel printing) has the changes for stacking arms (aka Kentucky swing) and other small notations of bringing the musket to the left side fr fixing/unfixing bayonet, etc. is all hand written and not part of the actual printed manual.
I attended an event with the Gen . Miles Marching and Chowder Society last week and had the chance to read the 1867 Uptons and the 1873. Granted the drill is for the trapdoor, we have used this refernce to state the position of "right shoulder shift". In the 1867, the stacking of arms and fixing/unfixing bayonet are all the same.
The question now is "Where would Emory Upton have learned this CS drill?", especially when his manuevers of the men are almost right out of Cook's cavalry manual. Could it be the copy of Hardee's with the handwritten corrections is like other FMs or TMs where a soldier would write in the new proceedures and that this said copy is just a post war change for volunteers/militia or possibly early regulars?
I know this may seem a complex question, but was something that has been chewing at me and thought I'd throw it out to others.
my 2 pennies
Joe Blunt
I ask this question in all seriousness and hope to get good educated answers and not just the "I agree" or such trivial comments just so you can add to your post total.
Is there a copy of the "Revised Hardee's" (aka Goetzels, etc.) that is printed with the adaptations for the musket. The copy that I have (and it is a photocopy of a Goetzel printing) has the changes for stacking arms (aka Kentucky swing) and other small notations of bringing the musket to the left side fr fixing/unfixing bayonet, etc. is all hand written and not part of the actual printed manual.
I attended an event with the Gen . Miles Marching and Chowder Society last week and had the chance to read the 1867 Uptons and the 1873. Granted the drill is for the trapdoor, we have used this refernce to state the position of "right shoulder shift". In the 1867, the stacking of arms and fixing/unfixing bayonet are all the same.
The question now is "Where would Emory Upton have learned this CS drill?", especially when his manuevers of the men are almost right out of Cook's cavalry manual. Could it be the copy of Hardee's with the handwritten corrections is like other FMs or TMs where a soldier would write in the new proceedures and that this said copy is just a post war change for volunteers/militia or possibly early regulars?
I know this may seem a complex question, but was something that has been chewing at me and thought I'd throw it out to others.
my 2 pennies
Joe Blunt
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