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    I have a pair of J.T. Martin Trousers that I dearly love. Last weekend I had an abnormal number of questions about why the waist line was so high. Indeed, it does come up about 4 inches above my navel. Someone said they looked like Steve Erkel pants. Are they SUPPOSED to ride that high up your mid section?

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    Re: Waist Line on Fed Pants

    YES!!!! NEVER judge old timey clothes to modern stuff. :wink_smil
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      Re: Waist Line on Fed Pants

      Originally posted by Guy Gane III View Post
      YES!!!! NEVER judge old timey clothes to modern stuff. :wink_smil
      Exactly! and they will also keep your "nipps" warm:wink_smil
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        Re: Waist Line on Fed Pants

        Photos will usually answer many of these types of questions.







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          Re: Waist Line on Fed Pants

          There was once a time when pants were worn upon the "natural waist" being above where you would wear pants today, near the navel. If the pants are made correctly to period specifications they will ride higher than pants of about post-1950s (modern) make.

          Some soldiers in the above photos are this way- especially if they have suspenders on, but when one wears Fed uniform trousers with a belt, then bellies/gravity tend to make your pants droop from the natural waist where they are supposed to be.

          Now you might understand why your grandfather wears his pants up to his elbows. :p

          All the best- Johnny Lloyd:wink_smil
          Last edited by Johnny Lloyd; 04-08-2009, 10:45 AM.
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            Re: Waist Line on Fed Pants

            Hallo!

            The other factor is the pattern itself.

            When viewed from the side:

            Modern trousers have a horizontal waistband as well as a straight backside.
            NUG, period trouser patterns have a more-or-less horizontal waistband to the side seam, but then can rise roughly 20/30/45 degrees.

            And they have yokes that are not perpendicular to the top but slopes downward.

            (As comparerd to modern pants and the "mainstream" "run-of-the-mill" sutler offerrings that were clone from a modern pair of pants with some features added such as wool, rear yoke, supender buttons, and a button fly to make them seem "Civil War.")

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              Re: Waist Line on Fed Pants

              Originally posted by Curt-Heinrich Schmidt View Post

              (As comparerd to modern pants and the "mainstream" "run-of-the-mill" sutler offerrings that were clone from a modern pair of pants with some features added such as wool, rear yoke, supender buttons, and a button fly to make them seem "Civil War.")

              hahahahaha Exactly. :D
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