sack coat color

[J.H.Berger]

Comrades, a friend of mine has just finished his first Schyulkill Arsenal sack coat. He has used a twill wool flannel in medium to light indigo color.
While the cloth itself is really good, correct weave, correct weight it does appear pretty light. I know that indigo dyed sack coat flannel varied in shade from to but what do you think about this one?I mean several of you were able to see originals.
Any opinions are welcome.

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=sackcoat4o4he.jpg

[J.H.Berger]

Re: sack coat color

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=sackcoatv6a4.jpg

[J.H.Berger]

Re: sack coat color

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=sackcoat6u387.jpg

[Duff]

Re: sack coat color

If you follow this link you can find several coats next to each other. Some of them are very light.

http://www2.inxpress.net/jwedeward/original_sack_coats.htm

It looks fine to me, but I am by no means an expert. Looks about the same shade as the coat 4th from the left. I'm sure it just looks a little bright because its brand new. A couple weekends in the field will surely see to that! ;)

[Curt Schmidt]

Re: sack coat color

Hallo!

A coat gone too hell. (Excuse the pun at the expense of the German...)

I took the liberty of putting the picture here:



First, one problem with images is that at times the lighting, particulalry flash or strobe lighting can lighten color ranges, as can a lad's monitor settings.

At any rate, IMHO, the color here is more of a darker "sky blue" than "dark blue."
It is too "electric blue" for my personal druthers with the range of original fatigue blouses found. Plus, it also lacks the "red" range found in indigo dyed blouse material.

Others' mileage will vary...

Curt

[Arthur Stone]

Re: sack coat color

Jan,
The coat looks fine on the lad but the color is a tad to sky blue for me. I always say the coat can be constructed correctly but it's all in the material. I just finished two SA unlined sack coats made with NJ********* light blue sack coat material. I will take a pix of one and post it. It's all in the material!

Tell he to keep sewin

[Arthur Stone]

Re: sack coat color

Jan,
Here's a pix of the sack coat with the NJ*********** light color material.

Art

[Dan Wambaugh]

Re: sack coat color

That's about the shade of blue that would have been used on overcoats and VRC jackets, i.e. slightly darker than trouser kersey, but still sky blue.

Looks like your friend got some good practice with the needle, but that flannel would likely be better served making an overshirt. Heck, have him mark it "inspected/condemned" and use the blouse to line an overcoat.

[PetePaolillo]

Re: sack coat color

Comrades, a friend of mine has just finished his first Schyulkill Arsenal sack coat. He has used a twill wool flannel in medium to light indigo color.
While the cloth itself is really good, correct weave, correct weight it does appear pretty light. I know that indigo dyed sack coat flannel varied in shade from to but what do you think about this one?I mean several of you were able to see originals.
Any opinions are welcome.
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=sackcoat4o4he.jpg

Mr. Berger,

Dan answered your question....but I figured I would email you some photos of my Fed issue contract blouse which was made by CJ Daley for your friend to compare. There are some closeups of the kersey showing the weave etc. Tell your friend nice job on the sewing and do not be discouraged.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ackcoat002.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ackcoat004.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ackcoat001.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ackcoat007.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ackcoat006.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ackcoat005.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...ackcoat003.jpg

[GoodNServiceableII]

Re: sack coat color

The 14th Connecticut's website has some photos of an original royal blue blouse. Even with the flash, however, it's still a few shades darker than the one in question:

http://members.tripod.com/bliss_barn/images/sackcoat1.jpg

http://members.tripod.com/bliss_barn/images/sackcoat2.jpg

http://members.tripod.com/bliss_barn/images/sackcoat3.jpg

http://members.tripod.com/bliss_barn/images/sackcoat4.jpg

http://members.tripod.com/bliss_barn/images/sackcoat5.jpg

Chris Darling
8th Conn. Vols.

[stri volunteer]

Re: sack coat color

Herr Kammeraden:

Electric blue is what I would call that, too. Gott im Himmel! My retinas are seared. My Fed sack is from CJ Daley, quite a bit darker and my Dad's is a Wambaugh & White, kind of faded lighter than mine, but much less "bright."

[J.H.Berger]

Re: sack coat color

Thanks all. Well he is not discouraged. He knew what he was using and it was a good practise for him too. He is searching for a sack coat flannel in a lighter shade than dark blue. If you hold the material in hand it really has the indigo shade but is is pretty light in color especially if seen in the sun.
Dan Wambaugh, if you like to have this material in shirt weight you can get it at www.naturtuche.de.

[Craig L Barry]

Re: sack coat color

Why not dye that one?

[paulcalloway]

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About 10 years ago, John Wedeward sent me this image of various original sack coats at the National Museum. It shows a lot of color variation in original coats - most of you that have examined original coats have noted similar degrees of contrast, I've seen it myself.

Although, I have never seen one as light as the one indicated in the original post. I would condemn that one and chalk it up to a learning experience.

I believe the photo credit on this image actually belongs to Paul McKee.

[Charles Kaiser]

Re: sack coat color

Hallo!
Plus, it also lacks the "red" range found in indigo dyed blouse material.

Curt

Hallo Kameraden,
I have read, that there must be no red or purple shade on the color, on German Wikipedia the write: Indigo is the last real blue, bevor blue changed in to purple.