Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

[PieBoy96]

Friends,

I'm investigating the variation of linings used in original Federal Overcoats (both mounted and dismounted). I've come across a few visual examples so far and present them here – I'm hoping for some other photographic input of originals to create a thread full of samples for myself and others.


Links to online examples
J.W. & Jr. Co. with red flannel lining: http://www.morris-clothiers.com/GreatCoat.html
S.A. with tan burlap-ish material: http://cwquartermaster.com/original_great_coat.htm
H.P. Wilbur with dark blue (sack coat) flannel: http://www.cjdaley.com/mountedovercoats.htm


Photos attached
S.A. with dark blue (sack coat) flannel, from the Kurtz collection and now for sale at The Horse Soldier
6th Mass. with white cotton drill (?), from the Kurtz collection
E. Tracy with tan burlap-ish material, from Gettysburg Archives (2 photos)

[Lt1stNCSS]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

thanks for posting those pics..i have been thinking about making one, and this will definitely help!!

still very new to the site here and impressed with the amount of deatil and research that people do here

[estephenson]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

In viewing the original from the Kurtz auction, it is sack coat blue, but it very loose weave. I assume this may have been rejected sack coat flannel used as lining. It also retains the slevadge on the bottom.

[PanzerJager]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Paul,

Here you go, here are some photos of linings I have collected. The first two photos are from a coat made by Amos Thomas of New York.





The Next Photos are from an E. Tracy of Philadelphia great coat. If I remember correctly both of these coats where at the HS.





The last photos are close ups of when we surveyed the SA overcoat from the Kurtz auction and show the loose weave blue flannel Eric mentioned.





Regards,

[marktaylor]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Paul,
Here are a couple of pictures of one I found on civilwarshop.com. It's still there, if you want more images, but these are the only ones of the lining I found. Here is the description (from the site) also:

"EXCELLENT and very scarce Civil War mounted pattern greatcoat of the type issued to both cavalry and artillery units during the era. Double breasted with eagle buttons on the front, the cape and the rear adjusting strap. Minor scattered very light insect damage and some picks but basically as good as they come and with a crisp sky blue color. This coat has a New Jersey (N.J) stencil beneath the upper cape and COULD possibly be identified--there is a stencil in the shoulders that reads "Chrisdie" which is either an aftermarket vendor or the stencil of Henry Chrisie who enlisted in 1863 in Battery B of the 1st New Jersey Light Artillery or one of the host of "Christie" guys who served from that state--name spellings are often altered in record transcriptions. Either way, a relatively difficult to find Cavalry or Artillery pattern Civil War coat in very nice condition! Bear in mind that just because this is a mounted pattern, that does NOT mean an infantryman or officer could not wear it! $7,250.00"

[Cameron]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

You might check out John Wedeward's website he also has photos of originals.

http://www.cwquartermaster.com/original_great_coat.htm

[estephenson]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Cameron, Paul posted that one in the initial post. Great SA greatcoat .

[Cameron]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

I should have looked more closely. My mistake.

[GreencoatCross]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

The 6th Mass. overcoat from the Kurtz auction is lined with a thick domet flannel type material. It's also interesting to note that the body of this garment is made from "recycled" imported French trousers that were too small to issue.

Note the paired cotton warp threads on the first E. Tracy overcoat lining. That looks a lot like the fabric used in the chain-stitched Louisiana jacket in Troiani's collection, the four-button CS jacket in Chillicothe, OH, and also some imported hand-woven cotton jean available today.

I have been saving similar images for reference but they are on Dan Wambaugh's computer; I will have to have him post some. I also have some from the gray felt overcoat owned by Troiani, and a black melton overcoat at the Wisconsin Veteran's Museum. Red bunting or flannel and the gold colored jean that looks like burlap seem to have been common among surviving overcoats.

[CSchneider]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Dark brown wool on white cotton plain weave jeans. The lining is 4 pieces if I remember correctly, and the bottom is not selvedge, but the raw edge is simply folded once and stitched by machine. Unknown manufacturer.

-Craig Schneider

[PieBoy96]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Here is a nice overcoat for sale with photos of the linings, among other details: http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Other...os/P10014.html

[ScottCross]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Sorry, I didn't get images up on the website for the lining, but I think I described it fairly well:

http://www.oshkoshmuseum.org/Virtual/exhibit3/e30190b.htm

[ScottCross]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Oops, forgot this one, once again no lining photos, but I described it as best I could:

http://www.oshkoshmuseum.org/Virtual/exhibit3/e30224b.htm

[PieBoy96]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Someone supplied me with this link that shows numerous detailed photos of a contract overcoat. It notes this is what served as the model for the County Cloth Federal Overcoat Kit: http://members.tripod.com/bliss_barn/originals.html

[J.H.Berger]

Re: Photos of Original Federal Overcoat Linings

Thanks Paul! Great source!