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Did Barnett use Birmingham proof barrels? Did they build 2 band Enfields? If so who was issued the 2 band Enfields.
J.M. Perry
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J.M. Perry
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Re: Barnett Enfields
Hallo!
In brief and over generalize...
Did Barnett use Birmingham proof barrels?
No, Barnett & Son were a commercial London firm and used the London proof house.
Did they build 2 band Enfields?
They also produced rifles and carbines.
If so who was issued the 2 band Enfields.
Enfields rifles appear in Period records under a variety of names. NUG, "generic" terms like "rifles," or "short rifles," "Enfield rifles," or "Enfield short rifles."
"Who were issued..." is a long listing or discussion.
The maker or the firm was not always considered that important to record.
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You will have to find the unit you are portraying and then search out their invoices to find out if the 2 band Enfield was issued at a certain time/place. I am sure some of them made their way into the hands of a soldier in the ACW, but your search cannot be so broad. Focus down to your desired impression and then ask the question based on the evidence you find.[I][B]Brian T. McGarrahan[/B][/I]
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Sharpshooter units preferred the Enfield rifles. Some division and brigade commanders directed that all Enfield rifles be directed to his Sharpshooter battalion. These rifles were available in more numbers more so than most other weapons. The were accurate, easy handling (compared to a musket) and cartridges was readily available (req'd no special ammo eg metallic cartridges or odd caliber)
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Hallo!
And it was not unusual in the opening years of the War on both sides for the two "flank companies" of a musket-armed regiment to be armed with rifles.
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Interesting factoid, some of the very first P53s to come across the pond were Barnetts. They were aboard the Bermuda a Blockade Runner that landed in Savannah in mid-Sept 1861. Those Barnetts were Birmingham proofed and marked TOWER in front of the hammer--not under the crown--over the date (1861), just like the Birmingham Small Arms Trade P-53s. The name "BARNETT" was stamped in the wood between the two lock plate washers. My theory has always been that Barnett was a few rifle-muskets short of filling the CS order and bought a few hundred from Birmingham makers to complete it. I believe there is a picture of one of those very first Tower marked 1861 Barnetts in the booklet/monograph "The Civil War Musket: JE Barnett & Sons."
But Curt is right, the vast majority of J.E. Barnett barrels were London proofhouse marked.Last edited by Craig L Barry; 01-27-2010, 11:56 PM.Craig L Barry
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Re: Barnett Enfields
Another extant example of a "Birmingham" Barnett is in a private collection in Georgia. It is a standard "Birmingham" Tower marked 1861 dated Enfield rifle musket, marked "BARNETT" in the wood of the stock toe, where a typical Birmingham contractors mark would be. The gun is also a CS import and is Sinclair-Hamilton marked. With Enfields, you can never say never......[SIZE=1]Your most humble and obedient servant,[/SIZE]
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