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  • #1

    Your thoughts on 3 original images:

    Please share any thoughts on the following troopers and what they're wearing.

    #1 Pvt. Buckner: With the uniform he's wearing I'm wondering if he was part of Virginia's pre war militia then decided to go mounted.

    #2: Pvt. Hill: Interesting jacket considering he didnt enlist till July 1863.

    #3: Lt. Yager: Born in 1812 I'd guess this is a Mexican war image or him using the same gear.
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    Valley Light Horse and Lord of Louisa



    "We are still expecting the enemy. Why dont he come?" -JEB Stuart

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    Re: Your thoughts on 3 original images:

    Intresting pictures. Pvt. Hills jacket seems to be a version of a state jacket, something he probably scrounged together or it could have been whatever the government had to give him. And Leiutenant Yagers picture is Civil War. He seems to be wearing a 1858 dress hat. Or very well it could be Mexican War looking at his attire.
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    • #3
      Re: Your thoughts on 3 original images:

      Photo #3, Lt. Yeager: For someone in their mid fifty's (born in 1812) he looks awful young (maybe irt's the quality of the photo). It's tough to make out the epaulettes since they were gold painted over.
      Tom Smith, 2nd Lt. T.E.
      Nobel Grand Humbug, Al XXI,
      Chapt. 1.5 De la Guerra y Pacheco
      Ancient and Honorable Order of E Clampus Vitus
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      • #4
        Re: Your thoughts on 3 original images:

        Lt Yager's image appears to have him wearing an Infantry insignia on his fully dressed Army dress hat and carrying what appears to be a militia, musician, or NCO sword judging by the grip and hand protector.
        [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=DarkSlateGray][SIZE=3]Michael Phillips, GGG Grandson of
        Pvt Edmond Phillips, 44th NCT, Co E, "The Turtle Paws"[/SIZE]
        [SIZE=2]Mustered in March 1862
        Paroled at Appomattox C.H. Virginia, April 15, 1865[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]

        [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B]"Good, now we'll have news from Hell before breakfast."[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]
        Was Gen Sherman's response upon hearing the capture and execution of 3 reporters who had followed from Atlanta, by the rebels.
        The execution part turned out to be false.[COLOR=DarkRed] [B]Dagg Nabbit![/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

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        • #5
          Re: Your thoughts on 3 original images:

          Yea thats why I was saying it's probably a Mexican War image.
          William L. Shifflett
          Valley Light Horse and Lord of Louisa



          "We are still expecting the enemy. Why dont he come?" -JEB Stuart

          In Memory of 3 Sox, 4th Va Cavalry horse, my mount, my friend. Killed in action January 9th, 2005.

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          • #6
            Re: Your thoughts on 3 original images:

            I don't believe image #3 is Mexican War era. Epaulettes were generally only worn on the dress coat, which was a double breasted cut-away or tail coat. Frocks were around but mostly worn for fatigue or undress. The hat also appears to be a Hardee hat, which makes that post Mex War as well. The hats for Mex War were either the '39 forage cap (wheel hat) or a 32/33 shako with hackle (feathers). This looks much to me like pre or early Civil War, probably state militia judging by the belt plate.
            Ross L. Lamoreaux
            rlamoreaux@tampabayhistorycenter.org


            "...and if profanity was included in the course of study at West Point, I am sure that the Army of the Cumberland had their share of the prize scholars in this branch." - B.F. Scribner, 38th Indiana Vol Inf

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            • #7
              Re: Your thoughts on 3 original images:

              Hello, I agree with Ross, #3 is not Mexican War, probably pre-war Virginia Militia. #2 The jacket looks to be something he brought from home. The jacket does not appear to be any known Depot pattern, but is similar to those seen on some Georgia soldiers mid-war-- the big pockets, while uncommon are seen in different CS photos. That does not mean it is any type of Depot pattern. I would say safely that his jacket was brought from home or made by someone in his local area. #1 is a typical Virginia Volunteer of April or May 1861. The state of Virginia issued thousands of yards of webbing to its early volunteer companies.

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