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    Canteens

    Hello,

    I've been reading O'Donnell's "Us Army & Militia Canteens 1775-1910"...so naturally I've been looking at problems with the reproductions we are using.

    Can one (or two) of the members who own an original CW period manufacture (US M1857+) canteen do a simple measurement for me - The largest diameter from edge seam to edge seam. Smooth or "bulls-eye" doesn't matter.

    All my repops (for some reason I have 3) measure around 8 1/2" and hold under the regulation 3 pints (all 3 hold around 5 1/4 cups or so).

    Back in the late 70s I used an original (at the time cheap enough for a 13/14 y.o kid with a little money) but sold it years ago. SkilletLicker carried some repops which were closer in size to the original but, unfortunately, the spout was wrong - in some ways wish I kept the one I had.

    Anyway, Thank you in advance for your assistance.
    Bob Roeder

    "I stood for a time and cried as freely as boys do when things hurt most; alone among the dead, then covered his face with an old coat I ran away, for I was alone passing dead men all about as I went". Pvt. Nathaniel C. Deane (age 16, Co D 21st Mass. Inf.) on the death of his friend Pvt. John D. Reynolds, May 31, 1864.
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    Re: Canteens

    As can be seen from the picture not all original canteens had the same measurments but usually held appoximatelly the same amount.
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    Last edited by Jimmayo; 04-21-2011, 10:42 AM.
    Jim Mayo
    Portsmouth Rifles, Company G, 9th Va. Inf.

    CW Show and Tell Site
    http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/j_mayo/index.html

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      Re: Canteens

      Thanks Jim!

      Great photo for comparing the different shapes of the canteens. I had a feeling there would be some variations, but I guess as long as they held somewhere near the required 3 pints....
      But that said, as long as the canteens are supposed to hold the same volume (given they are made according to regulations, and not a special pattern for private purchase, , etc, etc.) shouldn't the seam-to-seam diameter be the same or at least very close???

      Why does this matter?? I don't know, just curious.


      Actually, your Civil War "Show-and-Tell" site was the first one I visited when I started re-looking at canteens.

      Cheers,
      Last edited by BobRoeder; 04-21-2011, 11:02 PM.
      Bob Roeder

      "I stood for a time and cried as freely as boys do when things hurt most; alone among the dead, then covered his face with an old coat I ran away, for I was alone passing dead men all about as I went". Pvt. Nathaniel C. Deane (age 16, Co D 21st Mass. Inf.) on the death of his friend Pvt. John D. Reynolds, May 31, 1864.

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        Re: Canteens

        I measured some for another post and if my memory is correct (which it seldom is) the diameters were usually within 0.5 inch. Some canteens just look fatter than others but appear to be the same diameter. Reproduction canteens vary in the amount of water they hold and the ones I have checked usually fall almost a cup short of what the one original I filled held. I only used one uncovered original for comparison since I didn't want to risk additional damage to the covers.
        Jim Mayo
        Portsmouth Rifles, Company G, 9th Va. Inf.

        CW Show and Tell Site
        http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/j_mayo/index.html

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