Cressets Used During The Civil War?

[Dispatch]

Re: Cressets Used During The Civil War?

Even before I posted this I have been researching them. I knew they exsisted but I posted it as a subject for others here to know that they exist and to get more info from someone who may know more than I do. I asked and some have PM'd me with sources with different info. I asked for that exact purpose, for those who might know something more than what I found out, you never asked a rhetorical question?

[CompanyWag]

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Please share those sources with different info so that others might learn.

Paul McKee

[Dispatch]

Re: Cressets Used During The Civil War?

Please share those sources with different info so that others might learn.

Paul McKee

Most of it we've basically covered. I spoke to Colonial Williamsburg, they told me they have them their(I know, I've seen them), they have someone in-house that makes them but does not make them for the general public. I remember seeing them their last year when we visted Williamsburg(the basket type), they had them outside the governor's palace. That was why I brought it up here. Williamsburg told me the styles varied greatly from century to century and were not only used for Maritime use. They also said they doubled as fireplace Adrions. I knew soldiers used them in the smaller 'portable type' but wanted to know if anyone here seen the Basket type in any actual civil war photos or documents, I have not. Its frustrating I can not find even one drawing of the ground basket type. I found a place in CA that makes Hand Forged fabrications but I will need to see if I can get a picture off of the films to get exactly the ones I mean and post it here. Hope this helps.
These are 'real' 17th century:




These are 'real' 18th century:

[Hank Trent]

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I knew soldiers used them in the smaller 'portable type' but wanted to know if anyone here seen the Basket type in any actual civil war photos or documents, I have not. Its frustrating I can not find even one drawing of the ground basket type. I found a place in CA that makes Hand Forged fabrications but I will need to see if I can get a picture off of the films to get exactly the ones I mean and post it here. Hope this helps.

I'm still puzzled the same as Warren Dickinson. Yes, obviously, they existed 100 or so years earlier at Colonial Williamsburg, but so did flintlocks and knee breeches, which would be rare to find in the 1860s army. You said, "If I could find someone who does quality Blacksmithing(the basket type), I would bring them to an event... They did use them, especially in winter quarters," and then said you "wanted to know if anyone here seen the Basket type in any actual civil war photos or documents, I have not. Its frustrating I can not find even one drawing of the ground basket type." So how do you know they used them in winter quarters during the Civil War?

Hank Trent
hanktrent@gmail.com

[Dispatch]

Re: Cressets Used During The Civil War?

I'm still puzzled the same as Warren Dickinson. Yes, obviously, they existed 100 or so years earlier at Colonial Williamsburg, but so did flintlocks and knee breeches, which would be rare to find in the 1860s army. You said, "If I could find someone who does quality Blacksmithing(the basket type), I would bring them to an event... They did use them, especially in winter quarters," and then said you "wanted to know if anyone here seen the Basket type in any actual civil war photos or documents, I have not. Its frustrating I can not find even one drawing of the ground basket type." So how do you know they used them in winter quarters during the Civil War?

Hank Trent
hanktrent@gmail.com

Specifically the design I am looking for no, I have not seen. The smaller type yes, I have seen in use. I am assuming both types were used. Can anyone say the ones I want were not?

[CompanyWag]

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Steve,

I am still puzzling what this smaller type you have seen in use looks like. Please provide references for ACW use.

Paul McKee

[Dispatch]

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Never mind, I'm done with the subject here.

[CompanyWag]

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Never mind, I'm done with the subject here.

I am not surprised.

We have gone out of our way to provide references in answer to your question. But when we ask for documentation to support some statements you have made (regarding actual Civil War usage), you retreat from the discussion with a dismissive waive of the hand. This leaves the impression that your documentation is either very weak or non-existant. Or perhaps that your questions are far more important to get answered than other peoples'.

Judging by your recent queries regarding the use of tomahawks during the Civil War, the value of CVA arms, and now justification for the use of something you saw in the movies (not even set during the Civil War), I'm wondering of what level we're dealing with here. This thread is going nowhere really fast and the mods would be perfectly justified in closing it down at this time.

Paul McKee

[roundshot]

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Don't forget about the famous Cresset Regiment from New Orleans!

[dixieflyer]

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Don't forget about the famous Cresset Regiment from New Orleans!

And those rhetorical questions.

[hireddutchcutthroat]

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Your falling down a very slippery slope trying to ramrod a "did they had it", "could a had it", "would a had it" into PEC. I'm going to show up to the next event as a CS sharpshooter wearing everything Federal, but my jacket, bloused socks, cap covered in hat brass, and carrying a Henry Rifle. That would probably be more PEC than a cresset.

[CompanyWag]

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It's truly wonderful you have this all figured out. Enjoy your hobby.

Paul McKee