I had a question concerning the "Militia" style eagle button with the I (or A or C or D) in the shield. Was this the 1851 U.S. Regulation button? Was this used on Pre-war militia uniforms? The reason I am asking is that I am copying an early war jacket from the Trans-MS, that was privately made. You can't see the buttons very well, but from what I've compared them to, the miltia eagle I button is what it appears to be, and I was was wondering if indeed that could be possible. Thanks, -Jeff Hiseley
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Which jacket? I've seen a bunch of the few remaining TM jackets, and maybe I can help out. I know it's late war, but those buttons are all over Red River Campaign sites.Phil Graf
Can't some of our good friends send us some tobacco? We intend to "hang up our stockings." if they can't send tobacco, please send us the seed, and we will commence preparing the ground; for we mean to defend this place till h-ll freezes over, and then fight the Yankees on the ice.
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Which side?Robert Johnson
"Them fellers out thar you ar goin up against, ain't none of the blue-bellied, white-livered Yanks and sassidge-eatin'forrin' hirelin's you have in Virginny that run atthe snap of a cap - they're Western fellers, an' they'll mighty quick give you a bellyful o' fightin."
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Originally posted by Jeff_HiseleyI had a question concerning the "Militia" style eagle button with the I (or A or C or D) in the shield. Was this the 1851 U.S. Regulation button? Was this used on Pre-war militia uniforms? The reason I am asking is that I am copying an early war jacket from the Trans-MS, that was privately made. You can't see the buttons very well, but from what I've compared them to, the miltia eagle I button is what it appears to be, and I was was wondering if indeed that could be possible. Thanks, -Jeff Hiseley
Yes, the 1821-1854 regulation button for enlisted men was the eagle button with branch of service in the shield. In 1854 the enlisted man's button was changed to the plain eagle button. Officer's used the eagle button with branch of service til 1902. Could it possibly be a state issue button?
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We can "suppose" all day long and never have the answer on the question of how this button came to be on this particular jacket. The I shield button started as a Regular Army button and why it is being called a militia button here I do not know, as it was not designed specifically as a militia button.
The fact is that style button was used by the US Army for many years prior to the war just as various cartridge box models were that found their way into Confederate service. I have seen the I shield button on many Confederate uniforms over the years, from early war to mid war to late war. This was the primary reason I had reproductions of this style made with the idea for use on Confederate uniforms rather than US. Relatively speaking, I consider it a very common button on CS clothing that unfortunately has been over looked by CS reenactors.
Let’s not forget that above style the main reason the button was used on these jackets was to keep the darn thing buttoned. As long as it did that job the original owner of the jacket was happy.Last edited by JimKindred; 03-04-2004, 09:18 AM.Jim Kindred
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Originally posted by JimKindredWe can "suppose" all day long and never have the answer on the question of how this button came to be on this particular jacket. The I shield button started as a Regular Army button and why it is being called a militia button here I do not know, as it was not designed specifically as a militia button.
The fact is that style button was used by the US Army for many years prior to the war just as various cartridge box models were that found their way into Confederate service. I have seen the I shield button on many Confederate uniforms over the years, from early war to mid war to late war. This was the primary reason I had reproductions of this style made with the idea for use on Confederate uniforms rather than US. Relatively speaking, I consider it a very common button on CS clothing that unfortunately has been over looked by CS reenactors.
Let’s not forget that above style the main reason the button was used on these jackets was to keep the darn thing buttoned. As long as it did that job the original owner of the jacket was happy.
This is one of the reasons I find it so irritating that many "reenactors" say this button was "an officer's button" when in fact it was apparently used fairly widely. Just because the 1861 US Regulations said it was an officer's button does not mean it was used exclusively as a union officer's button.
Now, refering to something that was US regulation as a "militia" button is odd. I sometimes think that anything that was a bit different than the percieved "norm" is labelled as a "militia" item.~ Chris Hubbard
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