CS officers using Shoulder boards with Sack syle coat

[Rmhisteach]

Just wandering if this was done ?? I have seen pics of alot of frocks but I was just wondering ???

Rod

[Bmanz1085]

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Emanuel Rudasill,Co. M 16th NC Inf

http://www.civilwarphotos.net/files/images/810.jpg

[Rmhisteach]

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Great! Any idea on when this was taken ?

[Ike Gatlin]

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Sure looks post war to me... Of course, your mileage may vary.

Ike Gatlin

[Curt Schmidt]

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Hallo!

1875-1885ish if I had to make a Guess (based on the uniform style copying the Federal 1884 styles). :)

After the War, he moved ot Sherman, Texas IIRC in 1871 married and became a stockman. The image was taken at Caradine & Cumming in Sherman, a popular studio in the 1870's and 1880's. In 1919 he is credited as having lived in Sherman 50 years, which would make a date of arrival in 1869.

Curt

[Bmanz1085]

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I was wondering about the timeline also. I was questioning myself, especially the streamer attached to the flag, not familiar that they were used in the war much like battle streamers on modern US Army regimental colors. The uniform didn't appear correct in cut and style. Perhaps this was a captured flag, or a fraternal marking?

[Curt Schmidt]

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Hallo!

Family History and History entwined say that...

Rudisill, the color bearer of the 16th NC since 1863, could not bear to surrender the flag at Appommattox, and had it sewn under the lining of his great coat. He surrended a flag from another "company" as he could part with the one he carried. With the flag hidden, he passed through the Feds and went home.
He kept the flag until 1919 when the Daughters of the Confederacy asked that it be returned for one of their observances. He was also contacted by the NC governor and the NC State Historian. Rudisill contacted his former colonel, Charles Stowe then a lawyer for help, and the flag was turned over to the "Capitol Room" in Raleigh.

Curt

[Rmhisteach]

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Very cool story thanks for sharing .

RM

[Rmhisteach]

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Any other thoughts ??

[Chris Fisher]

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In Recollections of a Maryland Confederate Soldier 1861-1866 ISBN-0-89029-019-9. McHenry Howard writes on page 75 in the chapter, Appointment as a Staff Officer " I bought a plain grey coat, without sign of rank. to replace my soldiers jacket."
Also in the chapter Valley Campaign- Charlestown and Retreat Up the Valley page 113around May 28th 1862 " The General and his Staff took dinner or supper at the house of Mrs. Andrew Kennedy "Cassilis",......who also gave me and sewed on my shoulders a pair of 1st Lieutenant's epaulets (though Federal), so that while not in regulation Confederate uniform, I had now sufficient marks of rank."
He doesn’t elaborate on what the epaulets look like so I am unsure if they are fringed or a plain pair of shoulder boards.
I have seen several Frock Coats with shoulder boards but I haven’t examined them close enough to determine if they were applied at manufacture of the coat or later.

[LibertyHallVols]

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From the folders for the 2nd Miss effort last summer:
http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/...-2nd-Miss.-Inf.