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    confederate frock coat question....

    gentlemen,

    i am currently drafting a frock coat pattern, and after many evenings of throwing things and saying ugly words, i finally have the proper bell-shaped skirt. i was just curious if any one of you have ever seen an original c.s. frock with a one piece skirt. no pleats, no scallops, just one piece of cloth that goes all the way around. if so, does it have aot ties, or anv affiliation? thank you.

    richard j. davis
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    Re: confederate frock coat question....

    Richard,

    I've examined about 50 original CS frock coats. I've seen a lot of odd stuff on and/or in them, but NEVER have I seen one with a one piece skirt. Not a one!
    PATRICK CRADDOCK
    Prometheus No. 851
    Franklin, Tennessee
    Widows' Sons Mess
    www.craftsmansapron.com

    Aut Bibat Aut Abeat

    Can't fix stupid... Johnny Lloyd

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    • #3
      Re: confederate frock coat question....

      Without scallops - ABSOLUTELY!! One piece - NEVER! Not the best use of cloth especially from narrower period looms.
      [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]David Chinnis[/FONT]
      Palmetto Living History Association
      [url]www.morrisisland.org[/url]

      [i]"We have captured one fort--Gregg--and one charnel house--Wagner--and we have built one cemetery, Morris Island. The thousand little sand-hills that in the pale moonlight are a thousand headstones, and the restless ocean waves that roll and break on the whitened beach sing an eternal requiem to the toll-worn gallant dead who sleep beside."

      Clara Barton
      October 11, 1863[/i]

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      • #4
        Re: confederate frock coat question....

        Skirt pieces are usually cut on a bias correct? Width of cloth was usually 27 or 36 inches? Oh...and without a vent in that thaar skirt, your sure to have difficulties sitting them hand-parts down with any comfort and ease.

        Yoou really should consider employing a reputable vendor from the VENDOR APPROVED LIST, and have them to cut you one.

        Two that may be of some help
        Corner Clothiers (Brian Merrick)
        Chris Daley

        GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT
        [SIZE=2][B]Mark Mason[/B][/SIZE] :cool:
        [SIZE=2][I]Tar Water Mess[/I][/SIZE]
        [SIZE=2][I]GHTI[/I][/SIZE]
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        • #5
          Re: confederate frock coat question....

          "i am currently drafting a frock coat pattern, ....i was just curious if any one of you have ever seen an original c.s. frock with a one piece skirt.

          Are you saying that the original or the period pattern you're drafting the pattern from has a one piece skirt and you're wondering if this is common?

          Or are you just making something up then trying to find supporting documentation?

          If yes to the former, tell us more about your original or source. If yes to the latter....
          Daniel Fodera
          Palmetto Living History Assoc

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          • #6
            Re: confederate frock coat question....

            It's getting redundant, but I concur with the above posts.

            I've handled scores of originals and have never run across a one piece skirt. Plenty without pleats etc. but never one cut from a single piece.

            There are good patterns out there already if you are just looking for a generic coat to make. If you are copying an extant piece why not just stick to what's there on the original coat?

            Cheers.

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            • #7
              Re: confederate frock coat question....

              the pattern that i am drafting is the commonly seen style with the vent, etc. i was just curious about the posibility of there being another style, such as the one that i mentioned. i thank you gentlemen kindly for your replys, and i believe that i've got my answer.

              best regards,

              richard j. davis

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              • #8
                Re: confederate frock coat question....

                Pat,

                Which patterns would you recommend? I'm just curious.

                Thanks,
                Phil Graf

                Can't some of our good friends send us some tobacco? We intend to "hang up our stockings." if they can't send tobacco, please send us the seed, and we will commence preparing the ground; for we mean to defend this place till h-ll freezes over, and then fight the Yankees on the ice.

                Private Co. A, Cook's Reg't, Galveston Island.

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                • #9
                  Re: confederate frock coat question....

                  Phil,

                  I got a good result from the Homespun pattern. It's taken off a single breasted coat, quilted, scallops, etc with Kentucky provenance. It took my wife, a seasoned seamstress, about 40 hours to put together. Not a project for the faint of heart or the novice. Del Warren of James Country mechantile sells the pattern.

                  YOS,
                  Daniel Fodera
                  Palmetto Living History Assoc

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