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    Burying the dead at Antietam I

    TITLE: Antietam, Maryland. Burying the dead Confederate soldiers
    CALL NUMBER: LC-B811- 561[P&P]
    REPRODUCTION NUMBER: LC-DIG-cwpb-03562 (b&w copy scan of left half)
    LC-DIG-cwpb-01098 (b&w copy scan of right half)
    No known restrictions on publication.
    MEDIUM: 1 negative (2 plates) : glass, stereograph, wet collodion.
    CREATED/PUBLISHED: 1862 Sept.
    CREATOR:Gardner, Alexander, 1821-1882, photographer.

    Not sure if this one has been posted before, an interesting view of Antietam dead/burial parties on often seen.

    A very telling view of the burial party attached, note all the details. Amazing...
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    Last edited by paulcalloway; 04-21-2004, 10:43 AM. Reason: Adding images as attachments
    Ryan B.Weddle

    7th New York State Militia

    "Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes" - Henry David Thoreau

    "The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive the Veterans of earlier wars were treated and appreciated by their country."
    – George Washington , 1789

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    Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

    Awesome pic, Ryan. I haven't come across that one before. It's interesting to note the attitude being displayed by the, I'm sure, exhausted detail of troops there. They certainly had their work cut out for 'em after Antietam.
    Jim Conley

    Member, Civil War Trust

    "The 'right' events still leave much to be desired." - Patrick Lewis

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    • #3
      Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

      All the spades on the shovels seem to be a one peice and not a two peice, though I could be wrong. Great close up Ryan.

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        Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

        The look on this guys face says it all.
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        Robert Johnson

        "Them fellers out thar you ar goin up against, ain't none of the blue-bellied, white-livered Yanks and sassidge-eatin'forrin' hirelin's you have in Virginny that run atthe snap of a cap - they're Western fellers, an' they'll mighty quick give you a bellyful o' fightin."



        In memory of: William Garry Co.H 5th USCC KIA 10/2/64 Saltville VA.

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        • #5
          Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

          Interesting is right. Some of these men may be from Baxter's Fire Zouaves, 72nd Pennsylvania Vols. Note the guy in the vest, which looks an awful lot like the long, red trimmed sky blue vest worn by the 72nd. Also, the fellow to the left of the guy pointing appears to be wearing the distinctive Zouave jacket with ball buttons on both sides. Plus, the sleeve cut looks similar. Additionally, the 72nd fought very close to the spot where this photo was taken. Many thanks for sharing.

          Bob Williams
          Bob Williams
          26th North Carolina Troops
          Blogsite: http://26nc.org/blog/

          As [one of our cavalry] passed by, the general halted him and inquired "what part of the army he belonged to." "I don't belong to the army, I belong to the cavalry." "That's a fact," says [the general], "you can pass on." Silas Grisamore, 18th Louisiana

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            Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

            . . . And the guy kneeling to the right of the pointer has on leggings!

            Bob Williams
            Bob Williams
            26th North Carolina Troops
            Blogsite: http://26nc.org/blog/

            As [one of our cavalry] passed by, the general halted him and inquired "what part of the army he belonged to." "I don't belong to the army, I belong to the cavalry." "That's a fact," says [the general], "you can pass on." Silas Grisamore, 18th Louisiana

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            • #7
              Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

              The guy sitting with the shovel over his shoulder has his pants tucked into his socks (I hate the term bloused). Check out the blanket roll on the guy with the pickax, he is wearing it tied almost at the armpit! Anyone dare a guess as to where on the battlefield these guys are?
              Vince Jackson
              Straggler mess

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              • #8
                Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

                The fellow with the pick has on two canteens, neither one with a cover. One of the canteens also appears to have a pretty big dent in it. I am sure how the canteen received the dent is probably an interesting story in itself.
                Dane Utter
                Washington Guard

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                • #9
                  Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

                  Originally posted by NY Pvt
                  The fellow with the pick has on two canteens, neither one with a cover. One of the canteens also appears to have a pretty big dent in it. I am sure how the canteen received the dent is probably an interesting story in itself.
                  Where's the second canteen?? :confused_ All I see is the haversack, canteen, and the ends of what is probably a shelter half rolled up.

                  Chris

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                    Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

                    As for the location of the shot, Frassanito did a study of the Antietam photos, but I want to say that this shot was not in the book. I could be wrong.

                    In any case, the terrain and photos of other burial teams near the Cornfield seem to be very similar to this photo. My guess would be this photo was taken in the area of the Cornfield/Smoketown Road.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

                      What barn is that in the background? We could easily figure out the location that way.

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                      • #12
                        Photo Location

                        This pic is included in William J. Frassanito's pathbreaking _Antietam: A Journey in Time_, though you certainly can't get the detail you get here, which is quite amazing.

                        Frassanito tracks down, maps out and carefully explains where the pic was most likely taken. You can get the book and go to the battlefield and locate the very spot.

                        Dana Shoaf

                        Sorry, in my haste to get out of the office, I put the improper subtitle with the Antietam book. It should read _Antietam:The Photographic Legacy of America's Bloodiest Day. Frassanito's other books include _Gettysburg: A Journey in Time_ and _Grant and Lee_The Virginia Campaigns, 1864-1865. All three contain fascinating images and are worth having. I've had mine for years, and they are getting tattered from use and hauling to battlefields. Frassanito has also done some follow up studies on Gettysburg.
                        Last edited by Dshoaf; 04-22-2004, 09:16 AM. Reason: Wrong subtitle

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                          Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

                          Chris,
                          Your right I am blind. I had the high zoom and frogot to look at the over all picture. I guess I should wear my glasses more often.
                          Dane Utter
                          Washington Guard

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                            Re: Photo Location

                            As I look in Frassinato's book, the picture is titled " Union burial detail on the Miller Farm, Gardner, stere #561 Sept. 19, 1862 (LC) Frassinato writes: "The presence of a rather large burial detail in the foreground, together with the group of bodies, altered me to the fact that wherever this scene was, it was located on the battlefield proper and not in a rear area. Furthermore, my experience indicated that it was probably recorded in or near an area where Gardner is known to have taken other scenes. But only upon inspection of the right half of the orginal negative, which is today preserved by the LOC, did I notice something in this view that I had never seen before-a barn along the right-hand edge."

                            I could keep going, but I'll stop there..So the photo is definately in Frassinato's book, and the barn was there when the orginal photo was taken. One of the best pictures that came from the war in my opinion. Thanks for posting....

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                            • #15
                              Re: Burying the dead at Antietam I

                              So is it the Miller Barn (owner of the Cornfield) or some other barn in the rear area? What was Frassanito's conclusion?

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