Great early war View

[roundshot]

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Here's a portrait of one of the 9th NYSM. An excellent article and uniform description by Mike McAfee can be found in Military Images, Vol. XII, No. 5.
Again, they should not be confused with Hawkin's zou-zous. Appreciate your comments and interest, though.

[bAcK88]

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Here's a portrait of one of the 9th NYSM. An excellent article and uniform description by Mike McAfee can be found in Military Images, Vol. XII, No. 5.
Again, they should not be confused with Hawkin's zou-zous. Appreciate your comments and interest, though.

Bob,

Thank you for the info! The title for the image is Manassas, Va. Provost guard of the 9th New York Infantry and I assumed it meant the 9th New York Infantry Regiment (Hawkin's Zouaves). Those jackets are just too cool and I couldn't find out what type they were until today. This section on the AC is awesome!

Thanks again,
Bill

[rogue]

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Attached are several views of a "standard" Enfield bayonet (though perhaps plated for post-war G.A.R. use) and an Austrian Lorenz bayonet. The Lorenz would indeed have trouble fitting into a scabbard designed for the Springfield or Enfield. The Lorenz is 18 1/2 inches long and one inch wide at the base while the Enfield is 17 1/2 inches long and a tad under 3/4 inches wide at the base. The Lorenz has an "X" configuration in cross-section while the Springfield and Enfield are triangular. Note also the Lorenz front sight path is on a diagonal rather than the angular path to be followed by the front sight of the Springfield/Enfield.
The Lorenz was distinctive in weight, lighter, and length, shorter, and equally loved and hated by those who carried them.
Steve Sullivan
46th Illinois
CWPT
Co. Mil. Hist.
...and still older than both Scott Cross and Weed!

[johnf1862]

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From the LOC catalog, this enlargement provides a candid view of Federal Zouaves in the field, in this case men of the 96th Pennsylvania around Centreville, VA. Merry Christmas.

Excellent image, great upturned brims. Note the rifle on the guy left-center {with overcoat on/strange hat brass} it almost looks like there is a wooden tompion in the end of the barrel.

[John Legg]

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John,


That is a Tompion, great find!


Cheers :)

[maineman]

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What about all that farby hat brass?

[Fenianboy]

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I'm wondering if the fellow on the left in full kit with the 42 is from the same unit? Notice he is wearing a frock, lighter color pants,a different weapon and looks ready to march while the "Zoos" seem to in a lesser state of preparation? Bud Scully 13th NJ and 69th NY

[roundman]

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Keep clicking on the picture. It will get big enough to clearly identify the rifles as the Austrian Lorenz. The soldier with the gun butt on the log is a dead giveway, cheek peice on stock! Also the nosecap on another is a dead giveway!
Robert Myers

[Matt_E_Wright]

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Also note that the Soldier on the far left has his knapsack straps (w/ the J hooks) hooked on his waistbelt instead of crossed over the chest, kind of like what was intended with the M1855 rifleman's belt.

Matt Wright

[rebinnj]

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I like they way the guy eating the piece of hardtack and the one behind him have their kepi bills turned up. I don't see that in the second picture and don't recall seeing it before. Wonder if they did it just for this pic or if it was common for them? Great pics!!! - Bob Herr

Looks like with the kepi bill up, this prevents the shadow of the bill obscuring the face when the picture is taken.

[bushy chops]

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Now if we could only find a body of reenactors who want to do Goslines correctly and are willing to ante up to do so!

These guys are giving it a shot: www.95thpa.com. No Lorenzesin this group, but after doing a study, only the Flanker companies were issued the Austrain Lorenz, and those too were replaced in august of '62.

[Duff]

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They're not a bad unit. Plus they put on an awsome event called Hopes Campaign.