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    German Import Pics???

    Gentlemen,

    I am in search of imformation and pics related to German imported rifles and muskets. Specifically the following: Prussian, Potsdam, and Saxon.

    I realize this is very vague, but your assistance is greatly appreciated.

    Paul B. Boulden Jr.
    Paul B. Boulden Jr.


    RAH VA MIL '04
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  • #2
    Re: German Import Pics???

    I do not know of any pics, but these types of 2nd rate arms were used to arm Suckers aka Illinois troops. Good place to look.
    Jeremy G. Richardson

    Preserving History by Recreating the Past!

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    • #3
      Re: German Import Pics???

      I would check units that were formed at the beginning of the war. Most of them are likely to be uniformed/equiped by private sources. The Zouaves d' Afrique (later became Company A 114th PA Inf.) a company of soldiers raised in Philadelphia, PA early in the war were outfitting with a "two-banded rifle, a Belgian-made copy of a British Enfield". (Hagerty,163). These soldiers went on to become the body guard of General N. Banks. I scanned a picture out of Hagerty's book of the unknown soldier and the Belgian rifle. Hope this helps...

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      • #4
        Re: German Import Pics???

        http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Civil-War-Small-Arms/dp/0939631253


        This nice booklet has information on Belgian, French, and Saxon rifles along with two photos of Federal Soldiers posing with them. Also attached is an artilleryman in one of the Washington forts carrying what looks to be an Austrian or some other brand of import.
        Last edited by roundshot; 04-28-2007, 02:35 PM.
        Bob Williams
        26th North Carolina Troops
        Blogsite: http://26nc.org/blog/

        As [one of our cavalry] passed by, the general halted him and inquired "what part of the army he belonged to." "I don't belong to the army, I belong to the cavalry." "That's a fact," says [the general], "you can pass on." Silas Grisamore, 18th Louisiana

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        • #5
          Re: German Import Pics???

          Are you looking for period pics of these guns in use or modern pics of surviving examples?
          Michael McComas
          drudge-errant

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          • #6
            Re: German Import Pics???

            Modern Photos of these pieces would be preferable. But, period documentation through issuance records or images are also greatly appreciated.

            Thanks,

            Paul B. Boulden Jr.

            RAH VA MIL '04
            Paul B. Boulden Jr.


            RAH VA MIL '04
            (Loblolly Mess)
            [URL="http://23rdva.netfirms.com/welcome.htm"]23rd VA Vol. Regt.[/URL]
            [URL="http://www.virginiaregiment.org/The_Virginia_Regiment/Home.html"]Waggoner's Company of the Virginia Regiment [/URL]

            [URL="http://www.military-historians.org/"]Company of Military Historians[/URL]
            [URL="http://www.moc.org/site/PageServer"]Museum of the Confederacy[/URL]
            [URL="http://www.historicsandusky.org/index.html"]Historic Sandusky [/URL]

            Inscription Capt. Archibold Willet headstone:

            "A span is all that we can boast, An inch or two of time, Man is but vanity and dust, In all his flower and prime."

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            • #7
              Re: German Import Pics???

              Bill Edwards in "Civil War Guns" goes into these extensively and though this book is considered by some to be outdated (published in the early 1960s) it is still an excellent resource and is commonly available.
              Thomas Pare Hern
              Co. A, 4th Virginia
              Stonewall Brigade

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              • #8
                Re: German Import Pics???

                Firearms from Europe by Whisker, Hartzler & Yantz pays considerable attention to Prussian & Austrain arms.
                Johan Steele aka Shane Christen C Co, 3rd MN VI
                SUVCW Camp 48
                American Legion Post 352
                [url]http://civilwartalk.com[/url]

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                • #9
                  Re: German Import Pics???

                  You may want to post your question here:

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                  as well.
                  Gil Davis Tercenio

                  "A man with a rifle is a citizen; a man without one is merely a subject." - the late Mark Horton, Captain of Co G, 28th Ala Inf CSA, a real hero

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                  • #10
                    Re: German Import Pics???

                    Paul,
                    There are couple of photos on the pages linked below.
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                    http://www.rebelrelics.com/firearms.html

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                    Nick Medwid
                    Last edited by Tucker49th; 01-15-2007, 02:13 PM.
                    Nick Medwid

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                    • #11
                      Re: German Import Pics???

                      Roughly without quotes, the state of Illinois made use of some 10,000 'Prussian' muskets.

                      Maybe I could dig up 'Arming the Suckers' if you want Ill. particulars.


                      John Pillers
                      John Pillers
                      Looking for images/accounts of 7th through 12th Ill. Inf. regiments from April 1861 - April 1862

                      'We're putting the band back together'

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                      • #12
                        Re: German Import Pics???

                        Here is a photo of one of my two Potsdam muskets. This one is quite a bit rougher than the other,but this one was more accessable,so it got photographed. They have small differences between them, such as iron buttplate vs brass, rear tang sight on one,not on the other. They are big,heavy, solid weapons,and as well-made as any other musket of the period.





                        Doug Price
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