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    Hallo Kameraden,
    I am looking for pictures or ilustrations of auhtentical axes.I know there was a thread about historical tools on the forum before the big crash, but i couldnt find him.
    Christof Bastert a.k.a Charles Kaiser, Private,
    Co D, 17th Mo Vol Inf (Re)

    In Memory of Anthony and Joseph Schaer,
    Borlands Regiment/ 62nd Ark. Militia/Adams Inf./Cokes Inf.


    German Mess

  • #2
    Re: historical axe

    Hallo!

    IMHO, try referencing the "American Pattern" axe (sometimes called the "Yankee Pattern" in Europe.)
    It should give you a start.



    Tschuess!

    Curt
    Curt Schmidt
    In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

    -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
    -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
    -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
    -Vastly Ignorant
    -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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    • #3
      Re: historical axe

      Great link. I'm glad you axed that question.
      Bob Williams
      26th North Carolina Troops
      Blogsite: http://26nc.org/blog/

      As [one of our cavalry] passed by, the general halted him and inquired "what part of the army he belonged to." "I don't belong to the army, I belong to the cavalry." "That's a fact," says [the general], "you can pass on." Silas Grisamore, 18th Louisiana

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      • #4
        Re: historical axe

        Hallo Christof!

        An excellent little book I bought a couple years ago has a great many illustrations in it of a wide variety of period tools from the 17th century to the middle of the 19th century.

        Here is the title of the book:

        "A Museum of Early American Tools" by Eric Sloane.

        I find it somewhat amusing that the title says American when many of the tools have European origins. The little book is only $9.00 US or so (it may have gone up a little bit). I think anyone who has an interest in antique or period tools needs to buy this little book.

        Hope this helps some!

        auf Wiedersehen!
        Cheers,
        [COLOR=Red]Kirby Smith[/COLOR]

        Loblolly Mess

        Too many ancestors who served and events on the schedule to post here...

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        • #5
          Re: historical axe

          I will second Mr Sloane's excellent work., thta along w/ his other works are at the very least educational.
          Johan Steele aka Shane Christen C Co, 3rd MN VI
          SUVCW Camp 48
          American Legion Post 352
          [url]http://civilwartalk.com[/url]

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          • #6
            Re: historical axe

            Hallo Kameraden,
            thats what I am looking for, many thanks to you
            Bis bald
            Christof Bastert a.k.a Charles Kaiser, Private,
            Co D, 17th Mo Vol Inf (Re)

            In Memory of Anthony and Joseph Schaer,
            Borlands Regiment/ 62nd Ark. Militia/Adams Inf./Cokes Inf.


            German Mess

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            • #7
              Re: historical axe

              Christof, in case you don't want to forge it yourself as you might have to do some forge welding;-)--body iron blade carbon steel. A collegue of mine Jens Eichler is making axes from all kind of steel. He has done American axes as well. I can give you his address.
              A hatchet in the american style would be good as they werelisted in the QM manual as well.
              Jan H.Berger
              Hornist

              German Mess
              http://germanmess.de/

              www.lederarsenal.com


              "Und setzet ihr nicht das Leben ein, nie wird euch das Leben gewonnen sein."( Friedrich Schiller)

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              • #8
                Re: historical axe

                There is an I’d camp hatchet in the Gettysburg NPS visitor center downstairs with the under clothes and personal affects. I was just looking at it this weekend and remarking how the handle had been shortened for what I assume would be for the convenience of carrying it. Wish I had my camera to take a pic or two, maybe some one else can post one.

                Another source if you want to study original axes is check out relic and digger websites as axes and hatchets are often recovered from camp and stationary areas.

                Regards,
                -Seth Harr

                Liberty Rifles
                93rd New York Coffee Cooler
                [I]
                "One of the questions that troubled me was whether I would ever be able to eat hardtack again. I knew the chances were against me. If I could not I was just as good as out of the service"[/I]
                [B]-Robert S. Camberlain, 64th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry[/B]

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                • #9
                  Re: historical axe

                  If it's of any help, here's an example of a hatchet I saw at the Arabia Museum.

                  (There were several similar examples to this one on display when I was there earlier this year.)



                  Jan, could your friend reproduce one of these, and if so, would he ship to the UK? :)
                  Jim Smith, Volunteer Co., (UK)

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                  • #10
                    Re: historical axe

                    Charles,

                    Civil War Collector's Encyclopedia by Francis A. Lord, 1963, Stackpole Company, has a couple pages of axes & hatchets pictured.

                    Regards,
                    [B][I]Edwin Carl Erwin[/I][/B]

                    descendent of:
                    [B]Tobias Levin Hays[/B]
                    16th Texas Infantry, Co. I, Walker's Texas Division
                    22nd Brigade, "Mesquite Company", Texas Rangers
                    &
                    [B]J. W. Tally[/B]
                    4th Texas Infantry, Hood's Texas Brigade[B][/B]

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                    • #11
                      Re: historical axe

                      The hatchet from the Arabia sure looks a lot like a roofing hatchet! I think I have one almost identical in my garage. I'd check e-bay for old/antique hatchets or roofing hatchets.
                      Edward Anthony Parrott
                      "Humbug"

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                      • #12
                        Re: historical axe

                        Hallo!

                        My local blackpowder shop has two lying around for sale...



                        Curt
                        Curt Schmidt
                        In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

                        -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
                        -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
                        -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
                        -Vastly Ignorant
                        -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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                        • #13
                          Re: historical axe

                          Curt,

                          Is that a pre-1865 catalog? Not that it matters--it's a great illustration of various period hatchet styles. I'm just curious because something about it says early 20th century to me. Don't know if it's the typography, the logo style, the engraving style or what. Just curious, more from a graphic-arts standpoint than a hatchet standpoint.

                          Hank Trent
                          hanktrent@voyager.net
                          Hank Trent

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                          • #14
                            Re: historical axe

                            Hallo!

                            Yes, I put it up to illustrate a few of the common (albeit late) 19th century roofing hatchets.
                            I am rusty, as I saved the illustration without the date reference, but Peck, Stow & Wilcox formed in 1870. I believe that page is from their 1900 catalog.

                            Curt
                            Curt Schmidt
                            In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

                            -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
                            -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
                            -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
                            -Vastly Ignorant
                            -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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                            • #15
                              Re: historical axe

                              Originally posted by Curt-Heinrich Schmidt View Post
                              I am rusty, as I saved the illustration without the date reference, but Peck, Stow & Wilcox formed in 1870. I believe that page is from their 1900 catalog.
                              Thanks! Glad to know I'm not going nuts, or if I am, my graphic arts estimation skills are still in tact. It's an excellent illustration of typical 19th century types, though.

                              Hank Trent
                              hanktren@voyager.ent
                              Hank Trent

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