English Imported Gear

[Busterbuttonboy]

Re: complete import package?

Tim
Thanks for your reply. I shoulda denoted that i was speaking of confederate usage. Though looking at it from both sides it is rather interesting. Concerning the cap pouches that rested on the sling; are their both that type and the normal english pattern belt cap pouch available? I would love to see a picture of a unit equiped entirely with british accoutrements. More or less as i wanted to intermix some english peices into my confederate impression but to what extent i was unsure. Any other comments or suggestions?
Most Respectfully
Drew Gruber

[62nd ALA Pvt]

English Snake Belt

Where is a good place to buy a good English snake belt from?




Pvt.Owen Pierce
62nd ALA Co.a

[Busterbuttonboy]

Re: English Snake Belt

Owen
Dells leather works offers english pattern "snake" belts. I beleive for around 40 dollars.
Most Respectfully
Drew Gruber
14thNJVI

Drew,

If you cannot vouch for the quality of a maker, please DO NOT post your recommendations on this forum.

That leather 'maker' is not up to the standards that would be considered as authentic.

Scott McKay, moderator
Authentic Campaigner Forums

[Andrew Fraize]

Re: English Snake Belt

I got mine from THE CAVALRY SHOP and am well pleased with it. Good heavy leather, correct makers marks and nice looking buckle. Have had it 4 years and it has held up very well. Paid $37 for it then.

The Cavalry Shop
9700 Royerton Dr.
Richmond, VA 23228
PH: (804) 266-0898

I see DIXIE LEATHER WORKS also has one but can't comment on the quality good or bad on their goods.

Andrew,

As I had chimed in on Drew's post, if you cannot vouch for the quality of a maker, please DO NOT post your recommendations on this forum, particularly when you profess to not know their quality.

Both leather 'makers' are not up to the standards that would be considered as authentic.

Scott McKay, moderator
Authentic Campaigner Forums

Hope this helps.
S!

[RyanBWeddle]

Re: English Snake Belt

I can't comment on the previous two suggestions because I don't know of the vendors.

Here's a few solid suggestions:

Hank Kluin

http://www.fburgess.com/

Lukas Berg
sold through various vendors at various times:
CJ Daley www.cjdaley.com
Adam Cecil www.thequartermasterstores.com

There are several styles of these belts which were used during the war, research what you need and proceed.

[DougCooper]

Re: English Snake Belt

I own one bought through Chris Daley, made by Lukas Berg. There is a substantial increase in leather quality, stitching and dye accuracy with the one I own over examples from folks like Dixie and such. If value is your object (price+quality+accuracy), I would recommend Lukas Berg, through either vendor as Ryan states above. Hank Kluin also does it right.

[62nd ALA Pvt]

Re: English Snake Belt

How about Dells Leather works are they any good ?

No, they are not up to snuff.

Scott McKay, moderator
Authentic Campaigner Forums

Pvt.Owen Pierce

[hireddutchcutthroat]

Re: English Snake Belt

How about Dells Leather works are they any good ?

Pvt.Owen Pierce

I would also suggest Hank Kluin. You cannot go wrong.

[62nd ALA Pvt]

Re: English Snake Belt

I guess it is Hank Kluin then.


Thanks,
Owen Pierce

[GaReb]

British snake-buckle belts

I just bought two original British army snake-buckle belts from a dealer on Ebay that found them in Natchez, Missouri. I was wondering if there was anything that would hint to Confederate usage. One of the belts is stamped J. Fondson-Bruxells on the tongue. Anybody know if that's an importers mark? I'd appreciate any help I can get on this.

Pvt. Chris Anderson
5th Geo. Infantry

[1stMaine]

Re: British snake-buckle belts

Comrade,

Did you mean, perchance, Natchez Mississippi? If so, then he could have "found" them in the fields to the south where the battle scenes from "North and South Book II" were filmed. Quite a lot of stuff was "lost" and "used up" there, especially with some 2,000 Confederates camping out and running around the area.
Without an iron-clad provenance, I would never assume anything from ebay is what it is claimed to be.
respects,

[markj]

Re: British snake-buckle belts

I just bought two original British army snake-buckle belts from a dealer on Ebay that found them in Natchez, Missouri. I was wondering if there was anything that would hint to Confederate usage. One of the belts is stamped J. Fondson-Bruxells on the tongue. Anybody know if that's an importers mark? I'd appreciate any help I can get on this.

Pvt. Chris Anderson
5th Geo. Infantry

"Bruxells" is almost certainly BRUSSELS (Belgium). Enfield rifle-muskets were produced under license by Belgian manufacturers and the State of Indiana attempted to contract for a large lot of Belgian-produced Enfields in early May 1861 as stated in the "Diary of Calvin Fletcher" (Indianapolis: Indiana Historical Society, 1980, p. 108-109):

Thursday, May 2nd, 1861:

[While on our purchasing mission to Montreal, Quebec, British Canada] We went to 2 importing houses & with Messrs. Elliott & Co., made an agreement to buy 1,000 Minie or Endfield [sic] Rifles to be imported from Belgium from the manufact[ur]ers Aunet & Co. for which we have to pay the export & give some 20 [dollars] a piece. German gentleman one of the firm who had been in Belgium some years [sic].

If I find anything else, I'll post it.

Regards,

Mark Jaeger

[Vuhginyuh]

Re: British snake-buckle belts

Chris,
Can you add an image off your artfacts? If so I will add images of a piece that was excavated from a remote 18th century site (near Fort Anderson, Brunswick Co, NC) here four weeks ago.

[Michael Comer]

Re: British snake-buckle belts

I just bought two original British army snake-buckle belts from a dealer on Ebay that found them in Natchez, Missouri. I was wondering if there was anything that would hint to Confederate usage. One of the belts is stamped J. Fondson-Bruxells on the tongue. Anybody know if that's an importers mark? I'd appreciate any help I can get on this.

Pvt. Chris Anderson
5th Geo. Infantry

The abbreviation MS is for Mississippi. MO is Missouri. My guess is your ebay page said MS cause there ain't no Natchez in Missouri.

[Yellowhammer]

Re: British snake-buckle belts

Also, keep in mind that the British Army used belts with "snake buckles" for nearly 100 years. (And no, they weren't all the same.)

Lately, a lot of late Victorian belts have been popping up. Some are Brit, some are colonial, and some are Canadian but none of them are very much like what was imported during the ACW.