Cartridge Boxes worn on the belt???

[OldState]

Re: Cartridge Boxes worn on the belt???

Here are more. Federal rifles stacked near Petersburg.

I am not sure if you are seeing these as thumbnails or links?

[Illinois Rebel]

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Gents,

This image clearly supports (pardon the pun) the notion that the box was worn without the shoulder sling. Notice the broken seems on the box...

Great Thread!

Respectfully,

Michael Collins

[AZReenactor]

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Michael,
Nice close up image. Interesting how cartridge boxes carrying weight wear out differently than those carrying powder. Please include the source, if you have it, of the photo where this detail is from so that it can be put in context.

[Illinois Rebel]

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Michael,
Nice close up image. Interesting how cartridge boxes carrying weight wear out differently than those carrying powder. Please include the source, if you have it, of the photo where this detail is from so that it can be put in context.

Hello.

Thanks for the post. These are close ups from the two famous Alsop Farm pictures of CS dead. Please acknowledge colleague OldState above for his work in bringing these to the Thread.

I just enhanced them.

Respectfully.

Michael Collins

[Jimmayo]

Re: Cartridge Boxes worn on the belt???

Another aspect of these dead on Alsop's farm is that both this one and his companion shown in another picture are wearing new looking RD jackets which appear may be made of thick wool and have US eagle buttons attached. The split canteen strap seems to contradict ODonnell's new canteen book which states that they were early war (1862) and were discontinued.

[AZReenactor]

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Michael,
Dang I didn't even realize that was the same picture. Nice blow up.

[rogue]

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...and Michaels photo blow up also exhibits the upside down US plate on the belt supported box.
Steve Sullivan

[Illinois Rebel]

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...and Michaels photo blow up also exhibits the upside down US plate on the belt supported box.
Steve Sullivan

Thanks Steve,

I like the material of the trousers. Look at the weave; could it be a Jean Cloth material?

Respectfully,

Michael Collins

[OldState]

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Michael,
Nice close up image. Interesting how cartridge boxes carrying weight wear out differently than those carrying powder. Please include the source, if you have it, of the photo where this detail is from so that it can be put in context.

I downloaded the picture here:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...56sf=01186:@@@

I have been downloading a bunch of those "Highest Resolution" tiff files.

I think my wife is starting to wonder about me.....downloading high rez picture of dead and bloated bodies:confused_

[OldState]

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I came across this shot a few months ago. I never knew the two guys fromm both Alsop Farm pictures were only a few yards apart. See the other fellow blurry in the background?

We can also see Federal buttons on the guy by the fence in this angle. The cartridge box flap bend back is also of interest. I could look at the LOC pictures for hours....and have!



Here are the buttons:



Can you guys click and enlarge these? I don't know why they are not inserted as a thumbnail.

Michael, howdya post that pic so large??

[Illinois Rebel]

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How's that?

[thad gallagher]

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Post #77, with the close up photo appear to have an inverted "US" belt plate as well.

[OldState]

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Post #77, with the close up photo appear to have an inverted "US" belt plate as well.

They are all the same picture, same guy against the fence.

Michael, can you enlarge the pic I posted of the rifle stacks? There are two boxes hung on belts there. One box is a "late war" with the "US" embossed on the leather.

[thad gallagher]

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Yeah, sorry, I missed the earlier comment on the belt plate.

[OldState]

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Here is some evidence of how the men may have been dealing with the weight of a full cartridge box. Although it may just refering to extra rounds issued.

GENERAL ORDERS,
HDQRS. DEPT. OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA,


Numbers 68.
June 14, 1862.


II. Great waste of ammunition is reported from the practice of issuing packages of cartridges to be carried in pockets of the men. This is prohibited, except where men are about to engage the enemy. All injured ammunition will be turned in to the regimental ordnance sergeants for remanufacture at Richmond, and commanding officers of regiments will see that company commanders make frequent inspections of the ammunition in charge of their men, and that this order is strictly enforced.

By command of General Lee:

R. H. CHILTON,

Assistant Adjutant-General.