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    From the Semi-Weekly Raleigh Register, January 5, 1861; page 2, c. 6.

    Tin Foil & Metallic Cap Manufactory
    No. 38 Crosby Street, N. Y.
    John J. Crooke & Co.
    Are manufacturing under their patent
    Rolled Tin Foil,
    Plain, Printed, or Embossed
    suitable for wrapping
    Fine cut and Cavendish Tobaccos, Cheese,
    Spices, &c.
    Thin Beaten Foil, all sizes, superior in brilliancy and
    strength to the imported article.
    Metallic Caps,
    Invaluable
    for Sealing Bottles, containing wines or other liquids,
    Jars, &c., stamped with any name or design required.
    Also Music plates, Solder, Type and Britania Metals.

    Is there any on display?

    Mark Berrier
    North State Rifles
    Mark Berrier

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    Re: Tin Foil?

    Great info. I'd love to see if there is some existing examples that we can see.
    Andrew Turner
    Co.D 27th NCT
    Liberty Rifles

    "Well, by God, I’ll take my men in and if they outflank me I’ll face my men about and cut my way out. Forward, men!” Gen. John R. Cooke at Bristoe Station,VA

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      Re: Tin Foil?

      I strongly suspect that what we are looking at here, based on the description and context, is similar to the foil that was used to seal wine bottles, before plastic became widespread. A thicker foil than what we think of as "tin foil." Not being a big wine drinker, I know it was used up until the 1970s. Toothpaste and similar tubes were made of the same type of thing.

      Found this site with a photo of a post 1877 tinfoil strip, used for early sound recording:

      John Taylor

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        Re: Tin Foil?

        I agree with John that this would be a thicker and heavier foil than the aluminum foil that is commonplace today and which would have been simply too costly then. John J. Crooke patented a process of laminating tin to lead to be used for audio recordings.
        The only references I can find pertaining to the foils that Mr. Crooke manufactured, are in reference to his post-war manufacture of phonograph foil, which was described as "measuring exactly 1.5 thousandths of an inch thick. This is fifty percent thicker than heavy-duty aluminum foil but much softer and more malleable in texture." (http://members.aol.com/taedisonjr/foils.htm)
        Craig Hyson
        [SIZE="1"]OIF I, OIF 07-08[/SIZE]
        Susquehanna Rifles

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          Re: Tin Foil?

          The Cantel Patent Canteens were lined with tinfoil and I'd venture to guess this is probably the stuff he was using. Definitely an interesting post. Now I wonder if there is any connection with John J. Crooke & Co. selling tinfoil to M. Lazare Cantel.

          Bill Lomas
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            Re: Tin Foil?

            Originally posted by August77 View Post
            The Cantel Patent Canteens were lined with tinfoil and I'd venture to guess this is probably the stuff he was using. Definitely an interesting post. Now I wonder if there is any connection with John J. Crooke & Co. selling tinfoil to M. Lazare Cantel.

            Bill Lomas
            Speaking of the Cantel Pattern Canteen...Mr. Duvall (Nick D.) had at one time talked of reproducing these...I wonder if this is still the case???

            Paul B.
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