drumer boy

[Dennis]

A friend of mine son wants to join my unit as a drumer boy. Where can I find info on how he a learn to the commands and how to play them? thank you Dennis Brinker

[Pvt_Jack_Bauer]

Re: drumer boy

does he know how to play drums?

[Dennis]

Re: drumer boy

i'am not for sure

Dennis, you agreed to sign all posts with your full name when you signed up. Please do so in the future - Mike Chapman

[Pvt_Jack_Bauer]

Re: drumer boy

Well I am guessing to A. Know how to play the drums would be step one. Now to be functional on the unit level it would be best to talk to a principal musician and they can give you a wealth of information on where to start. A drummers participation varies from organization to organization. Also check these guys out

http://www.campchasefifesanddrums.com/

some of the best in the business...they could probably point you in the right direction.

[John Legg]

Re: drumer boy

ehh camp chase does modern stuff, (sticking) my pard john white saw them at greenfeild village one year,
and got up and left. it looked like the movie "Drumline"

even though they are from georgia id contact the 125th OVI Tiger band.

Tell him he needs to get a copy of Bruce and Emmetts fife and Drum guide. even though there is some mid-late war stuff in there its a good place to start.

after a while. have a look at Caseys. there is some calls in the book.

and dennis, please sign your full name after every post, it helps all of us here!

Thanks and Cheers :)

John

[Horton]

Re: drumer boy

My best advice is to find someone who already knows how to play to help him out. The main thing is to practice. I have seen at too many events where kids are just given drums with minimal instruction and being told to just play "somethin" until they are old enough to hold a weapon. I am glad to here of another kid who is interested in playing and wish him the best of luck. get him some nice heavy sticks to build those wrist muscles and a good teacher and he will be on his way.

[pjdrums96]

Watch what you say

ehh camp chase does modern stuff, (sticking) my pard john white saw them at greenfeild village one year,
and got up and left. it looked like the movie "Drumline"


Hey John,

I am very interested to know if you have ever seen Camp Chase live for yourself? Before you start talking trash on a group that has been in existance for more than a decade, you may want to get your facts staight. I play with Camp Chase and I can tell you that more than 90% of music we perform is taken right from the drum manuals of the period.

We have had drum solos written by our lead drummer, merely for crowd appeal. When you are playing for large crowds of your "average civilians," they do not want to hear army 2/4 ten times in a row. We are a professional music group that is there to educate, as well as entertain.

Now, if we were at a reenactment we surely would be playing the camp duty. And let me assure you that there are many individuals in our group who can play the entire days duties, not just Reveille. There are also many of us who consider ourselves living historians and not just performers.

I would use caution when comparing us to the movie "Drumline." Maybe your pard got that movie confused with Glory. (sarcasm)

Sincerely,

Patrick Jones
Camp Chase Fife and Drums

[Knapsack Matt]

Re: drumer boy

If he wants to learn the calls right use Bruce and Emmets.


Matt

[John Legg]

Re: drumer boy

taken right from an IM from my pard.

"modern drum corps movements in a civil war drum corps is off the charts horrid, in MY book"

im just saying. i did get invited into the group but i declined because of this...


and i am sorry of how i worded the previous post. i know there is some good guys in the group, you guys are good and all, but some times as my friend said.

Dennis, i do have many pages from caseys of drum calls. if you shoot me a PM or email message to Johnlegg11@yahoo.com

i will be very happy to send them to you.
:)
John

[FranklinGuardsNYSM]

Re: drumer boy

taken right from an IM from my pard.

"modern drum corps movements in a civil war drum corps is off the charts horrid, in MY book"

im just saying. i did get invited into the group but i declined because of this...

I'm puzzled...on another forum, you discuss playing an admittedly non-period song while "jamming" at events.

Where does the tolerance line for period vs. non-period in field music lie? Moreover, why should there even BE a tolerance line in the case of field music at events?

[John Legg]

Re: drumer boy

OK guys i have made mistakes and i am trying to learn from them.

yes i do play some non-period songs at mainstream events, and yes i am learning more period songs as i type.

thanks

John

[Ross L. Lamoreaux]

Re: drumer boy

John, just to let you know, there is a long-standing tradition of drummers utilizing this "sticking" you refer to as part of the rudiments when learning the instrument, as far back as at least the War of 1812. After mastering the basics , instructors at the School of Music would instruct distinctive patterns of tapping the sticks on the sides and rims of the drums as a method of bringing together all that was learned, as well as for the showmanship. A great example of this is presented by the field music of the 7th US Infantry regiment under Maj0r Steve Abolt for 1812 events like Ft McHenry and Chalmette. Since field music has, since the founding of the National army , been long on tradition, I present to you that this has a place in Civil War field music as well, depending upon the specific portrayal, etc.

[John Legg]

Re: drumer boy

yes.

see what they did at this event, was after the drums played some kind of quickstep. they stoped and flipped there sticks to their shoulders and turned their heads and blew the end of their sticks. acting like there was dust on it or somthing ?



Cheers :)

john

[pjdrums96]

Re: drumer boy

John,

Are you implying that YOU have been invited into the Camp Chase Fife and Drum Corps??? If you are I have never met you before and neither have my pards who have been in the group for over ten years, along with the founding members.

In regards to your friends IM about "modern drum corps beats" in our group: I have marched in the Golden Lancers Drum and Bugle Corps, Bluecoats Drum and Bugle Corps, and Santa Clara Vanguard Drum and Bugle Corps. Rest assured that we play nothing in the fashion of those groups in Camp Chase. I played snare in all of them, up until 2003 when I aged-out.

I feel you would benefit from a little more studying before posting anymore inaccurate drum information. You never know who will be reading it.

Mr. Lamoreaux, thank you for your wonderful insight into the "sticking" issues. Well said!!

Sincerely,

Patrick Jones
Camp Chase Fife and Drums

[John Legg]

Re: drumer boy

I did get invited back in august. At the cascades event.

I was just saying what i was told.

Im sorry for all of the confusion but we need to get back on the original dicussion.












Paul, everything has been fixed!


- John :)