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    I have read the article in the Jan/Feb Civil War Historian about the top ten Confederate Generals. Do you agree with Michael and Thomas Aubrecht? Who would you pick? In what order would you place them? What I found most intriguing was the Interesting Facts on each general.
    I enjoyed some of the early biography details on the generals with which I was not conversant of.
    [B][FONT="Georgia"][I]P. L. Parault[/I][/FONT][/B][FONT="Book Antiqua"][/FONT]

    [I][B]"Three score and ten I can remember well, within the volume of which time I have seen hours dreadful and things strange: but this sore night hath trifled former knowings."

    William Shakespeare[/B][/I]

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    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

    I do not agree with several of the picks.

    I think John Bowen doesn't get enough credit for what he did as a commander. If he had not died at the end of the Vicksburg siege, I think there would be much written about him today. At the head of the Missouri Brigade, he was unstoppable. He exercised independent command and bailed out Pemberton on several ocassions. He outperformed several of the generals that were on that list.

    I admit I'm biased in the matter since I'm a Missourian, but I really do think that an unbiased look at his command skills and accomplishments will bear me out.
    Michael Comer
    one of the moderator guys

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    • #3
      Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

      top10?
      It's ashame that's what CWH magazine has gone to? I suppose next will be top 10 union generals?
      I love the magazine...just feel as if its quality has been slipping away lately.:(
      Just my two cents.
      Micah Trent
      Tar Water Mess/Mess No. 1
      Friends of Perryville Battlefield State Historic Site

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      • #4
        Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

        Micah,
        I couldn't agree with you more. It seems as if CWH has been declining in quality rapidly. If you compare the current issues to the older ones you will see the difference.

        I don't think I will do top ten but here's is the top three

        3. James Longstreet
        2. Jubal Early
        1. A.P. Hill
        Andrew Turner
        Co.D 27th NCT
        Liberty Rifles

        "Well, by God, I’ll take my men in and if they outflank me I’ll face my men about and cut my way out. Forward, men!” Gen. John R. Cooke at Bristoe Station,VA

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        • #5
          Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

          Is there any doubt?

          1)D.H. Hill
          2)Stephen Dodson Ramseur*
          3)Robert F. Hoke
          4)William Dorsey Pender*

          *KIA
          My Top 4 anyways.
          Mark Berrier

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          • #6
            Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

            1. D. H. Hill - obviously
            2. Bryan Grimes - he and his boys made a real fight of it at Fisher's Hill even after their flank was turned and the non-North Carolina troops had all fled.
            3. J.J. Pettigrew - fought like a caged tiger at Falling Waters
            4. Rufus Barringer - even when the end was very near, he and his tiny brigade of four North Carolina regiments sacrificed themselves as Lee's rearguard at Namozine Church and prevented Sheridan from gobbling up much of the infantry.
            Peter Julius
            North State Rifles

            "North Carolina - a vale of humility between two mountains of conceit." Unknown author

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            • #7
              Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

              Gentlemen,
              There is an Obvious NC trend going on. I couldn't agree with you more! The NC generals were always slighted by the Richmond politicians and underrated by everybody!
              [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=DarkSlateGray][SIZE=3]Michael Phillips, GGG Grandson of
              Pvt Edmond Phillips, 44th NCT, Co E, "The Turtle Paws"[/SIZE]
              [SIZE=2]Mustered in March 1862
              Paroled at Appomattox C.H. Virginia, April 15, 1865[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]

              [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B]"Good, now we'll have news from Hell before breakfast."[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]
              Was Gen Sherman's response upon hearing the capture and execution of 3 reporters who had followed from Atlanta, by the rebels.
              The execution part turned out to be false.[COLOR=DarkRed] [B]Dagg Nabbit![/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

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                Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

                accidentily hit button twice. Mods delete please
                Last edited by Prodical Reb; 02-12-2008, 07:01 PM. Reason: mistake
                [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=DarkSlateGray][SIZE=3]Michael Phillips, GGG Grandson of
                Pvt Edmond Phillips, 44th NCT, Co E, "The Turtle Paws"[/SIZE]
                [SIZE=2]Mustered in March 1862
                Paroled at Appomattox C.H. Virginia, April 15, 1865[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]

                [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=Navy][B]"Good, now we'll have news from Hell before breakfast."[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]
                Was Gen Sherman's response upon hearing the capture and execution of 3 reporters who had followed from Atlanta, by the rebels.
                The execution part turned out to be false.[COLOR=DarkRed] [B]Dagg Nabbit![/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

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                • #9
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                  I have to agree with Mr. Trent. I started my subscription back around the 5th issue or so & it seems to be going toward a different direction than I was expecting. When this issue came, I dont think I even looked at it after the first day it came in the mail. When my subscription runs out, I dont think I'll be renewing unless something changes.


                  Bill Fean

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                  • #10
                    Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

                    Originally posted by huntdaw View Post
                    I do not agree with several of the picks.

                    I think John Bowen doesn't get enough credit for what he did as a commander. If he had not died at the end of the Vicksburg siege, I think there would be much written about him today. At the head of the Missouri Brigade, he was unstoppable. He exercised independent command and bailed out Pemberton on several ocassions. He outperformed several of the generals that were on that list.

                    I admit I'm biased in the matter since I'm a Missourian, but I really do think that an unbiased look at his command skills and accomplishments will bear me out.
                    Thank you for posting this. His leadership at Port Gibson is not topped by anyone. At Champion's Hill, again he bailed out Pemberton's army, and came very close to beating Grant. As close as any other did. I have studied Bowen a lot. If he had died in a glorious charge, instead of dying practically alone of dysentery, his memory would have been better served. Another great General was Cockrell. He has been described by at least one historian as the best combat commander of the war, either side. Part of his greatness may have been the result of learning from Bowen. Important to both generals was the men they led - The Missouri Brigade. This unit was decimated throughout the war. Very few returned home. Very few to carry the banners of Generals Bowen & Cockrell. The story of these men & their soldiers is a wonderful thing to learn.
                    "Bowen's division sustained its reputation by making one of its grand old charges, in which it bored a hole through the Federal army, and finding itself unsupported turned around and bored its way back again" - Gen. Pemberton's chief engineering officer

                    Sam Looney
                    1st Missouri Battalion
                    Trans-Mississippi Brigade

                    CWPT

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                    • #11
                      Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

                      Pards,
                      I've always been a big fan of Nathan George "Shanks" Evans. Without his bold moves, 1st Manassas and Ball's Bluff would have been quite different.
                      Mark Warren
                      Hairy Nation
                      [COLOR="Green"]Gooseberry Pie
                      "The Official Dessert of the Hairy Nation Boys"[/COLOR]
                      Mark Warren
                      Bloomfield, Iowa

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                      • #12
                        Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

                        I think the whole top 10 thing was lame.

                        I do agree with John Bowen not getting enought credit, it's always a pleasure to read about him. Of course i've always been a Benjamin Franklin Cheatham fan too. He had one of the biggest funerals as far as attendence goes that Nashville has ever seen. Most were his old troops, that really says something about a leader to me.
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                        Grandad Wm. David Lee
                        52nd Tenn. Reg't Co. B


                        "If You Ain't Right, Get Right!"
                        - Uncle Dave Macon

                        www.40thindiana.wordpress.com/

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                        • #13
                          Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

                          Hi,

                          1 James Longstreet
                          2 Patrick Celburne
                          3 Thomas Jackson ( Stonewall Jackson)
                          4 Hood as a brigade commander

                          Andrew Kasmar
                          4th Missouri Company E
                          Andrew Kasmar

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                          • #14
                            Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

                            Mahone as a division commander through 64 and 65. He kept his division viable when others were not able to.

                            Steve Acker

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                            • #15
                              Re: The top 10 Confederate Generals (CWH)

                              Once again, generals grab the headlines while the underdog Confederate Navy goes begging. Not many admirals to choose from:

                              1. Franklin Buchanan
                              2. John Randolph Tucker (later rear admiral in Peruvian Navy)
                              3. Raphael Semmes
                              [COLOR=Blue][SIZE=4][FONT=Verdana]Bob Dispenza[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
                              [COLOR=Navy]US Naval Landing Party ([url]www.usnlp.org)[/url][/COLOR]
                              [COLOR=SeaGreen]Navy and Marine Living History Association ([url]www.navyandmarine.org)[/url][/COLOR]

                              "The publick give credit for feat of arms, but the courage which is required for them, cannot compare with that which is needed to bear patiently, not only the thousand annoyances but the total absence of everything that makes life pleasant and even worth living." - Lt. Percival Drayton, on naval blockade duty.

                              "We have drawn the Spencer Repeating Rifle. It is a 7 shooter, & a beautiful little gun. They are charged to us at $30.00. 15 of which we have to pay."
                              William Clark Allen, Company K, 72nd Indiana Volunteers, May 17, 1863

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