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    Here is a nice little something that I started watching about halfway though the bidding process on eBay. This is a stoneware crock, which stands about 14 inches tall, and is attributed to a couple of potters in NJ between 1807 and 1827.

    The starting bid was $98.38 (wierd) and when I started watching it was around $125.00. I thought "That is something I'd like to have. I'll keep a watch on it."

    Let's just say the bidding on this crock closed just a wee bit out of my price range. Are you ready for thi? Here it comes....

    $2,550.00 (plus shipping)!

    At least we have a photo of it here...and maybe we can find a potter to make us a few at conciderably less that $2,500.00!

    Enjoy!
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    PATRICK CRADDOCK
    Prometheus No. 851
    Franklin, Tennessee
    Widows' Sons Mess
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    Aut Bibat Aut Abeat

    Can't fix stupid... Johnny Lloyd

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      Patrick,

      Check with J. Henderson Artifacts...Jay and Tracy are always looking for interesting projects to work on in the Fall/Winter months, and do a fantastic job!

      J. Henderson Artifacts: http://artifacts.brigandsfolie.com/

      Paul B.
      Paul B. Boulden Jr.


      RAH VA MIL '04
      (Loblolly Mess)
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      [URL="http://www.military-historians.org/"]Company of Military Historians[/URL]
      [URL="http://www.moc.org/site/PageServer"]Museum of the Confederacy[/URL]
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      "A span is all that we can boast, An inch or two of time, Man is but vanity and dust, In all his flower and prime."

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        I have been reading this for a few days! Great thread


        James Slonders

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          GREETINGS FROM BONNIE SCOTLAND
          BROS
          Sorry i have not posted sooner but i was hoping that i would eventually have good news for y`all concerning the c-clasp pin that i was hoping to get made.
          but i think it is to much for the jewleller to handle, every time i go to see him he says its nearly there!!!
          now i wait for him to come to me with the said pin, his shop is only 8 doors from my shop he said he would bring it to me when ready another two months have now passed
          i am sorry that i could not deliver and you are not to disappointed,

          I have been out with the camara photographing grave stones which i will be posting on the proper page

          ONCE AGAIN i APPOLOGISE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE PIN DONE.(YET)!!

          wishing you all the best
          Bro Bill 1712 Friendship, EDINBURGH.
          W S MESS.
          Last edited by TATTOOS1; 06-15-2008, 02:21 AM.
          WILLIAM BROWN

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            Brother Bill,

            NO worries! Believe me, we've all been there and have heard the excuses before. We'll just have to keep looking!

            I hope all is well with you in bonnie Scotland!
            PATRICK CRADDOCK
            Prometheus No. 851
            Franklin, Tennessee
            Widows' Sons Mess
            www.craftsmansapron.com

            Aut Bibat Aut Abeat

            Can't fix stupid... Johnny Lloyd

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              Just thought some of you masons would appreciate the Austrian Lorenz on the following page. Page down and it is just after the Va. buckle.

              Jim Mayo
              Portsmouth Rifles, Company G, 9th Va. Inf.

              CW Show and Tell Site
              http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/j_mayo/index.html

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                Thanks for posting Jim. For something so rare during it's time (a weapon marked with a square and compass) and surviving today is outstanding.
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                Grandad Wm. David Lee
                52nd Tenn. Reg't Co. B


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                  This month's Smithsonian has an article on the dig for Geo. Washington's boyhood home and shows a masonic clay pipe. Rather than me posting just one image, I've linked to a google image search for "masonic clay pipe"
                  Regards,
                  Deborah Hyland
                  dance mistress

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                    Hey Jim,
                    Did I wait too long to read your post? I see a Block I button just below the Virginia Plate.

                    Did I miss something really cool? DOH!
                    PATRICK CRADDOCK
                    Prometheus No. 851
                    Franklin, Tennessee
                    Widows' Sons Mess
                    www.craftsmansapron.com

                    Aut Bibat Aut Abeat

                    Can't fix stupid... Johnny Lloyd

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                      Speaking of Masonic Material Culture,

                      I've got two original (19th C I think) Masonic mourning badges/cockades. Are these common? rare? unusual? Just curious.

                      Greg Starbuck
                      The brave respect the brave. The brave
                      Respect the dead; but you -- you draw
                      That ancient blade, the ass's jaw,
                      And shake it o'er a hero's grave.


                      Herman Melville

                      http://www.historicsandusky.org

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                        Greg,

                        What you, most likely, have are a couple of rosettes from an 1880s to 1920s Knight Templar sash. Sorry to say they aren't funerary, but I don't think they are.

                        I've attached a photo to explain. I think the rosette would be worn on the sash were the two ends cross and maybe even another - or a similar rosette with a delta instead of a square and compass - on the shoulder. Of course, with all the 100s of photos I have of masonic stuff I can't find a better image than this one.

                        Anyway, I hope this helps.
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                        PATRICK CRADDOCK
                        Prometheus No. 851
                        Franklin, Tennessee
                        Widows' Sons Mess
                        www.craftsmansapron.com

                        Aut Bibat Aut Abeat

                        Can't fix stupid... Johnny Lloyd

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                          Pat-

                          My cockades are black silk with a white metal Masonic device in the center. They are constructed exactly like a Lincoln mourning badge, or a secession cockade (except in black). I'll post pics later when I get ahold of my camera.

                          Greg Starbuck
                          The brave respect the brave. The brave
                          Respect the dead; but you -- you draw
                          That ancient blade, the ass's jaw,
                          And shake it o'er a hero's grave.


                          Herman Melville

                          http://www.historicsandusky.org

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                            Here are pics of the cockades.

                            Greg Starbuck
                            Attached Files
                            The brave respect the brave. The brave
                            Respect the dead; but you -- you draw
                            That ancient blade, the ass's jaw,
                            And shake it o'er a hero's grave.


                            Herman Melville

                            http://www.historicsandusky.org

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                              Greg,

                              YUP. What you have there are rosettes from the Templar Sash. Take a close look at the photo I posted. You can see the ripple of the rosettes: one on the shoulderand one at the waist were the ends of sash cross - just behind the gauntleted hand holding the sword.

                              I have one just like that and thought the same as you - that it was a mourning device. But, alas, they are rosettes from a Templar sash. Still pretty cool, though.
                              PATRICK CRADDOCK
                              Prometheus No. 851
                              Franklin, Tennessee
                              Widows' Sons Mess
                              www.craftsmansapron.com

                              Aut Bibat Aut Abeat

                              Can't fix stupid... Johnny Lloyd

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                                Any comments on this gold fob, as far as time frame. It is 10k gold measures a little more than one inch in diameter. No markings on the back.

                                Regards
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                                Greg S Barnett
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