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  • "Mammy's Little Baby..."

    1) Three little children lyin' in bed,

    Two of them sick and the other most dead.

    Called for the doctor, the doctor said,

    "Feed them children some shortning bread."

    [chorus]


    * * *


    CHORUS:

    Mammy's little baby loves shortning, shortning,

    Mammy's little baby loves shortning bread.

    Mammy's little baby loves shortning, shortning,

    Mammy's little baby loves shortning bread.

    ____________


    2) When them children lying in the bed

    Heard that talk about shortning bread,

    Thay all got up and began to shout,

    Laughin' and a-singing and a-dancing about.

    [chorus]


    * * *


    3) Put on the skillet, put on the lid,

    Mammy's gonna make a little shortnin' bread.

    Then after that, there's a treat for you,

    Mammy's gonna make a little coffee too.

    [chorus]


    I had a debate about this song with a friend... given the rhythm, the tune and the rhime is this song a pre-war/mid-19th century minstrel song?

    I said it was one and of possible African origins- sure sounds like a tune along the lines of "Cluck Old Hen". I just cannot prove it for a fact with references. I have heard it sung at events, but no references to its possible origin.

    Been hummin' it all day...:p

    Any thoughts from the group? -Johnny Lloyd
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    Re: "Mammy's Little Baby..."

    Well, a google search will yield extensive discussions like this one http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=51174 but I don't see anyone definitely establishing it as an ante-bellum tune. I checked both the LOC American Memory and the Duke University Historic Sheet Music collection, searching the word "Mammy." I got plenty of hits with turn-of-the-century pieces, but only one mid-century tune, and in that piece the word "Mammy" wasn't even used in a minstrel or African-American context.
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      Re: "Mammy's Little Baby..."

      Originally posted by Old Cremona View Post
      Well, a google search will yield extensive discussions like this one http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=51174 but I don't see anyone definitely establishing it as an ante-bellum tune. I checked both the LOC American Memory and the Duke University Historic Sheet Music collection, searching the word "Mammy." I got plenty of hits with turn-of-the-century pieces, but only one mid-century tune, and in that piece the word "Mammy" wasn't even used in a minstrel or African-American context.
      See, there's the disconnect for me for this song... much like folk music with no writer/attribution to a writer but with a rhyme/rhythm/lyrics that sound from a certain ethnic provenance/era/geographical region- I cannot find a single resource stating this song is pre-war or for that matter postwar. If anyone can help with this research, please let me know. This is quite vexing to me. ;)

      Sometimes the word "momma" was substituted in place of the politically-incorrect "Mammy" in the few versions of the song I've seen.

      The darn thing sure sounds pre-war, but that doesn't mean it is.

      Thanks- Johnny Lloyd
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        Re: "Mammy's Little Baby..."

        Dear Secesh ,
        I have been trying to locate information on this song for years but alas , always in vain. The best I could find was the subtitle "A Plantation Melody " . Perform at your own risk . My group perofrms it at mainstream events , not at total immersion events. Like all show-biz , one has to determine one's audience.
        all for the old flag ,
        David Corbett
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