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  • #31
    Re: german civil war songs

    Soldaten,
    A little one of those English songs written about the Germans,this one gives some praise though. Blenker, Sigel, Weber...to the melody of the "New York Volunteer":

    Our German volunteers. Air: New-York volunteer. H. De Marsan, Publisher, 54 Chatham Street, N. Y. [n. d.]
    IMPRINT
    New York, New York: H. De Marsan
    RELATED NAME(S)
    Publisher: H. De Marsan
    SHELF LOCATION
    American Songs and Ballads, Series 3, Volume 3
    LYRICS
    OUR GERMAN
    VOLUNTEERS.

    Air: New-York Volunteer.

    There is a General in the West whose deeds have come to fame,
    He is a gallant soldier, and in movements he is game;
    Then let us raise our voices high and give three hearty cheers
    For Siegel, hero of the West, and his German volunteers:
    For Siegel, hero of the West, and his German volunteers.

    Now at the battle of Bull-Run, we fought well, every one can say,
    But panic struck our army, and we had to move away,
    And, in that great confusion, of our rear we had great fears,
    But it was protected by Blenker and his German volunteers:
    But it was protected by Blenker and his German volunteers.

    Now there's the gallant Fifth Regiment who before their duty done,
    They have again offered their services to go to Washington:
    And were it not for Patterson who did Scott's plan betray,
    They would join McDowell, at Bull-Run, and took an active part, that day:
    They would join Mc Dowell, at Bull-Run, and took an active part, that day.

    Then there's the gallant Max Weber who took an active part,
    When our ships of war bombarded Forts Hatteras and Clark,
    And should the South make an attack, while he and his men are there,
    They'll get a mighty good whipping of which they are not aware,
    They'll get a mighty good whipping of which they are not aware,

    Now, as I close my little song, I'll say a word or two:
    Should you be called upon to fight, stand by your colors true;
    Then raise your voices with one accord and give three hearty cheers
    For Mc Clellan, Scott, and Siegel, and their Union Volunteers!
    For Mc Clellan, Scott, and Siegel, and their Union Volunteers!

    H. DE MARSAN, Publisher,
    54 Chatham Street, New-York.

    COLLECTION
    American Songs and Ballads
    REPOSITORY
    Rare Book and Special Collections Division, Library of Congress
    DIGITAL ID
    sb30389b

    A Nice little Ditty.

    "Bahn Frei Gut Heil!"
    Matthew Bernhardt Bursig
    52nd New York Regt.
    Your Obedient,

    Matthew B. Bursig
    52nd New York Regt. "German Rangers",
    & The Daybreak B'hoys Mess

    Researching the Life and Times of the 20th NYSV Regt. The "United Turner Rifles"

    "Bahn Frei!!"

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    • #32
      Kriegslied

      Kriegslied

      Die Fahnen wehen, frisch auf zur Schlacht;
      Schlagt muthig drein!
      Es klingt Musik, die uns fröhlich macht,
      In’s Herz hinein ;
      Die Pfiefen und Trommeln mit füßem Klang
      Das Feld entlang.
      In die Schlacht, die Schlacht hinaus!

      Wer möchte blieben, wann’s lustig geht,
      Im stillen Haus?
      Wohlen! Wenn Jugend in Blüthe steht,
      Hinaus, hinaus!
      Wo frisch und munter das Leben rollt!
      Wer das gewollt :
      In die Schlacht, in die Schlacht hinaus!

      O Wehrmannsleben, o köstlich Gut!
      Und ward’s bescheert :
      Der Mann ist selig, der trägt den Muth
      Blank, wie sein Schwert.
      Wer tapfer im fröhlichen Streite fiel,
      Im Heldenspeil;
      Schläft im Arme der grünen Erd’

      Ihm klingt Musik, die er leben mag,
      Mit Klang darein :
      Nicht schöner klingt am Todes-Tag
      In’s Grab hinein!
      O seliger Tod, o du Wehrmannstod!
      Noch bin ich roth!
      In die Schlacht, in die Schlacht hinein!


      MAN! It is tough reading this stuff in the book! Apparently Herren Schaefer und Koradi had a press that needed a little loving, many of the special charachters seem to print terribly. Why couldn't it have been simple letters like "o" or "w"! unglaublich . . . :sarcastic
      Mark A. Pflum
      Redleg and unemployed History Teacher
      Member:
      CMH
      AHA
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      • #33
        Re: Kriegslied

        Originally posted by Ringgold
        Kriegslied

        Die Fahnen wehen, frisch auf zur Schlacht;
        Schlagt muthig drein!
        Es klingt Musik, die uns fröhlich macht,
        In’s Herz hinein ;
        Die Pfeifen und Trommeln mit süßem Klang
        Das Feld entlang.
        In die Schlacht, die Schlacht hinaus!

        Wer möchte bleiben, wann’s lustig geht,
        Im stillen Haus?
        Wohlen! Wenn Jugend in Blüthe steht,
        Hinaus, hinaus!
        Wo frisch und munter das Leben rollt!
        Wer das gewollt :
        In die Schlacht, in die Schlacht hinaus!

        O Wehrmannsleben, o köstlich Gut!
        Und ward’s bescheert :
        Der Mann ist selig, der trägt den Muth
        Blank, wie sein Schwert.
        Wer tapfer im fröhlichen Streite fiel,
        Im Heldenspiel;
        Schläft im Arme der grünen Erd’

        Ihm klingt Musik, die er leben mag,
        Mit Klang darein :
        Nicht schöner klingt am Todes-Tag
        In’s Grab hinein!
        O seliger Tod, o du Wehrmannstod!
        Noch bin ich roth!
        In die Schlacht, in die Schlacht hinein!


        MAN! It is tough reading this stuff in the book! Apparently Herren Schaefer und Koradi had a press that needed a little loving, many of the special charachters seem to print terribly. Why couldn't it have been simple letters like "o" or "w"! unglaublich . . . :sarcastic
        Great!!!
        I have corrected some letters ;) I don't know if they had really printed "Pfiefen" or "Heldenspeil" which could be because of prose ;) but the other way around would be correct. It is mit "süßem Klang" not "füßem" :)
        I know , old German script. I have read the reprint of the German translation of Grants memoirs from 1886!! Afterwards you can read old German script!!
        Thank you very much Mark! I have to search for the tunes now!
        Viele Grüsse
        Jan H. Berger
        Hornist
        Jan H.Berger
        Hornist

        German Mess
        http://germanmess.de/

        www.lederarsenal.com


        "Und setzet ihr nicht das Leben ein, nie wird euch das Leben gewonnen sein."( Friedrich Schiller)

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        • #34
          Re: german civil war songs

          post: The CD sounds like a great idea-having German roots myself, I should dig into this material a bit. I feel sometimes that the "Irish pub songs" are as they say "way overrepresented in the hobby".
          __________________
          Paul Herling
          SGLHA


          I also agree that there should be more Germanic flavor to the hobby. The CD sounds like a great thing!! Iwould LOVE to have all the guys with German roots get together at an event and just talk about their "fatherland"

          ps, I love my great grandfather cpl Arnold Rader, 46th Ill., as he ran a saloon for 30 years after the war. A TRUE German!!!!

          John M. Wedeward
          33d Wisconsin Vol. Infantry
          John M. Wedeward

          Member
          33d Wisconsin Volunteers
          The Hard Head Mess
          The Old Northwest Volunteers
          5th Kentucky Vol's (Thomas' Mudsills)

          Member
          Company of Military Historians
          Civil War Battlefield Preservation
          Sons of American Revolution
          Sons of Union Veterans

          http://www.cwuniforms.net

          Ancestors:

          Pvt. John Wedeward, Co. A, 42 Illinois Vol. Infantry
          Cpl. Arnold Rader, Co. C, 46th Illinois Vol. Infantry
          Brigadier Gen. John Fellows, 21st Continental Regiment

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          • #35
            Re: german civil war songs

            This discussion reminded me that I have a German Reformed Church hymnal ("Eine Gammlung Evangelisher Lieder, zum Begrauch der Hochdeutsch Reformirten Kirche, in den Der. Staaten von Nord Amerika"), published in Chambersburg, PA by M. Reiffer und Co. in 1857. If I've got my church history right, I believe it isn't Lutheran but German Reformed, which is still in existence.

            Anyways, someone mentioned (and I have read before) that "Old Hundredth" or the Doxology, was popular during the Civil War. In the back of this hymnal there are 10 doxologies, of which only three are to Long Meter (For those unfamiliar with older/mainline church music, the meter is the number of syllables in a line.) Long Meter (designated "L.M.") is the same meter as Old Hundredth, and very possibly would have been sung to that popular tune. Here are the three that can be sung to Old Hundredth (I hope I got this transliteration correct):

            Preis, Lob und Ruhm fen Gott Gebracht,
            Der Ulles, Ulles weht gemacht, (is "Ulles" a word? Or is it "Alles")
            Ihn preise was durch Jesum Christ
            Im Himmel und auf Erden ist.

            Nun lobt den herren allzugleich
            Vuf Erden und im Himmelreich;
            Es lobe Gott mit frohem Ton, (? first letter)
            Was Udem (? first letter) hat im hochsten Thron.

            Hoch heilige Dreieinigkeit (k?)
            Dir fen hienieden in der Zeit, (z?)
            Noch herrlicher in Ewigkeit
            Unbetung, Dank und preis geweiht.

            I sung a little German in college, and come across an occaisional German word in my reading (theological), so I know an occasional word, but does anyone know enough German to translate these?

            In any case, if you want to sing a German doxology some night before lights out, here you go.

            Joanna Norris Grimshaw
            [FONT=Trebuchet MS]Joanna Norris Forbes[/FONT]

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            • #36
              Re: german civil war songs

              Mein Pfeifchen.

              Wenn mein Pfeifchen dampft und glüht,
              Und der Rauch von Blättern
              Sanft mir um die Nase zieht,
              O dann tausch’ ich nicht mit Göttern.
              Schwindet dann der Rauch im Wind,
              Fang’ ich an zu lachen,
              Denke : so vergänglich sind
              Alle, alle andre Sachen

              Edles Kraut, du stäkest mich,
              Giebst mir Kraft zum Leben ;
              Könnt’ ich, edler Tabak, dich
              Nach : ,: Verdienst : ,: erhaben!
              Schenk’, o Himmel, Diesem Kraut
              Sonnenschein und Regen.

              Du trittst in der Einsamkeit
              An des Freundes Stelle ;
              Fehlt es mir an Zeitvertreib,
              Nehm’ ich mir das Pfiechen schnelle.
              Fühl’ ich dann die heiße Kraft
              Lief in meiner Seele,
              O dann macht der Gerstensaft
              : ,: Süßer : ,: meine Kehle.

              Knasterpfeifchen können zwar
              Nur die Reichen schmauchen ;
              Sollt’ ich darum ganz und gar
              : ,: Keinen : ,: Tabak rauchen?
              Ei, ihr Herrn, das Wäre fein!
              Nein, ich bin gescheiter ;
              Lasse Knaster sein
              Und verknall’ A B und Retter

              Wenn mein Mädchen spröde thut,
              Hab’ ich nichts dawider,
              Nehme meinen Stock und Hut,
              Geb’ zu euch, ihr [lieben] Brüder.
              Krieg’ ich dann den Magenkrampf
              An dem leeren Beutel,
              Denk’ ich, Pfeifchen, bei dem Dampf :
              Es ist : ,: Alles : ,: eitel!

              Yes, it actually says andre, not andere. Also, they use "th" rather than the modern simple "t", such as in Morganroth / Morganrot or tut /thut.

              If I understand this as well as I think I do, why does it appear that the writer lost his mind in the last two stanzas? Maybe he "raucht mehr als Tabak in seinem pfeife" :embaresse
              Mark A. Pflum
              Redleg and unemployed History Teacher
              Member:
              CMH
              AHA
              Phi Alpha Theta (MU XI Chapter)

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              • #37
                Mist

                Viele danken, Herr Berger. Your corrections are correct.

                For those of you who are unfamiliar with Old German Text, here is a sample of what I'm dealing with :

                in the original size-

                And now blown-up so you can actually read it-

                For those of you who have never had the pleasure of transcribing this beautiful print, you're lucky.

                Joanna, if you look in the first stanza, you will see the similarities between the U in the second line's "Und" and the last line's A in Alle. Also the use of an "f" looking character (who's true name escapes me at present) for the soft "s". I think if you take this new info and retry your lyrics, it should make more sense.
                Mark A. Pflum
                Redleg and unemployed History Teacher
                Member:
                CMH
                AHA
                Phi Alpha Theta (MU XI Chapter)

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                • #38
                  Re: german civil war songs

                  Originally posted by weed
                  post: The CD sounds like a great idea-having German roots myself, I should dig into this material a bit. I feel sometimes that the "Irish pub songs" are as they say "way overrepresented in the hobby".
                  __________________
                  Paul Herling
                  SGLHA


                  I also agree that there should be more Germanic flavor to the hobby. The CD sounds like a great thing!! Iwould LOVE to have all the guys with German roots get together at an event and just talk about their "fatherland"

                  ps, I love my great grandfather cpl Arnold Rader, 46th Ill., as he ran a saloon for 30 years after the war. A TRUE German!!!!

                  John M. Wedeward
                  33d Wisconsin Vol. Infantry
                  www.inxpress.net/jwedeward

                  Oh ja!! Eine Kneipe mit deutscher Gemütlichkeit;-))))))
                  John I will try to manage the Cd project. I may have some connections here in Germany. If it works you will hear from us!
                  Regards
                  Jan H. Berger
                  Hornist
                  Jan H.Berger
                  Hornist

                  German Mess
                  http://germanmess.de/

                  www.lederarsenal.com


                  "Und setzet ihr nicht das Leben ein, nie wird euch das Leben gewonnen sein."( Friedrich Schiller)

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                  • #39
                    Re: german civil war songs

                    Originally posted by hiplainsyank
                    This discussion reminded me that I have a German Reformed Church hymnal ("Eine Gammlung Evangelisher Lieder, zum Begrauch der Hochdeutsch Reformirten Kirche, in den Der. Staaten von Nord Amerika"), published in Chambersburg, PA by M. Reiffer und Co. in 1857. If I've got my church history right, I believe it isn't Lutheran but German Reformed, which is still in existence.

                    Anyways, someone mentioned (and I have read before) that "Old Hundredth" or the Doxology, was popular during the Civil War. In the back of this hymnal there are 10 doxologies, of which only three are to Long Meter (For those unfamiliar with older/mainline church music, the meter is the number of syllables in a line.) Long Meter (designated "L.M.") is the same meter as Old Hundredth, and very possibly would have been sung to that popular tune. Here are the three that can be sung to Old Hundredth (I hope I got this transliteration correct):

                    Preis, Lob und Ruhm fen (von?) Gott Gebracht,
                    Der (A)lle, (A)lle Welt? gemacht, (is "Ulles" a word? Or is it "Alles")
                    Ihn preise was durch Jesum Christ
                    Im Himmel und auf Erden ist.

                    Nun lobt den herren allzugleich
                    (A)uf Erden und im Himmelreich;
                    Es lobe Gott mit frohem Ton, (? first letter)
                    Was (O)dem (? first letter) hat im h(ö)chsten Thron.

                    Hoch heilige Dreieinigkeit (k?)
                    Dir fen (von)? hienieden? in der Zeit, (z?)
                    Noch herrlicher in Ewigkeit
                    (A)nbetung, Dank und preis geweiht.

                    I sung a little German in college, and come across an occaisional German word in my reading (theological), so I know an occasional word, but does anyone know enough German to translate these?

                    In any case, if you want to sing a German doxology some night before lights out, here you go.

                    Joanna Norris Grimshaw
                    Hi Joanna,
                    I have coreccted it as far as I believe is correct. Odem means breath. A very old word used in lyics. Unfortunately i don't have the time to translate it now but it is a song of praisal for God and Jesus.
                    Regards
                    J.H. Berger
                    Hornist
                    Jan H.Berger
                    Hornist

                    German Mess
                    http://germanmess.de/

                    www.lederarsenal.com


                    "Und setzet ihr nicht das Leben ein, nie wird euch das Leben gewonnen sein."( Friedrich Schiller)

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                    • #40
                      Re: Mist

                      Originally posted by Ringgold
                      Viele danken, Herr Berger. Your corrections are correct.

                      For those of you who are unfamiliar with Old German Text, here is a sample of what I'm dealing with :

                      in the original size-

                      And now blown-up so you can actually read it-

                      For those of you who have never had the pleasure of transcribing this beautiful print, you're lucky.

                      Joanna, if you look in the first stanza, you will see the similarities between the U in the second line's "Und" and the last line's A in Alle. Also the use of an "f" looking character (who's true name escapes me at present) for the soft "s". I think if you take this new info and retry your lyrics, it should make more sense.


                      :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
                      Yes you are right. Nice song! Are there and dates attached to the songs in your Liederbuch Mark?
                      Regards
                      Jan H. Berger
                      Hornist
                      Jan H.Berger
                      Hornist

                      German Mess
                      http://germanmess.de/

                      www.lederarsenal.com


                      "Und setzet ihr nicht das Leben ein, nie wird euch das Leben gewonnen sein."( Friedrich Schiller)

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                      • #41
                        Re: Mist

                        "Are there and dates attached to the songs in your Liederbuch Mark?
                        Regards
                        Jan H. Berger"

                        Regrettably, no. And, as I stated before, there is not even a definative publication date. sigh. Scheafer & Koradi were in business from the early 19th Century through the early 20th Century, so it may be impossible to ever date the book's publication date. :(
                        Mark A. Pflum
                        Redleg and unemployed History Teacher
                        Member:
                        CMH
                        AHA
                        Phi Alpha Theta (MU XI Chapter)

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                        • #42
                          Schlachtgesang

                          Schlachtgesang


                          Auf! Und laßt die Fahnen fliegen!
                          Schwerter, öffnet uns die Bahn!
                          Gott mit uns zu Kampf und Siegen!
                          Feinte, bebt, die Rächer nahn,
                          Die Rächer nahn!

                          Lief in Feindes Auge schauen,
                          Treu vereint in Sturmesnoth,
                          Heißt auf unsre Losung Bauen :
                          Lorbeer oder Heldentod,
                          Ja Heldentod!

                          Ha, wie schön die Donner tönen!
                          Blitze flammen durch den Dampf!
                          Sieg, du leuchtest deinen Söhnen!
                          Vorwärts, Brüder, in den Kampf!
                          Fort in den Kampf!

                          :baring_te
                          Mark A. Pflum
                          Redleg and unemployed History Teacher
                          Member:
                          CMH
                          AHA
                          Phi Alpha Theta (MU XI Chapter)

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                          • #43
                            Re: german civil war songs

                            Originally posted by J.H.Berger
                            Oh ja!! Eine Kneipe mit deutscher Gemütlichkeit;-))))))
                            John I will try to manage the Cd project. I may have some connections here in Germany. If it works you will hear from us!
                            Regards
                            Jan H. Berger
                            Hornist
                            Jan, this is a great thread and you would be doing us all a fantastic service if the CD comes through. Let us know if there's anything we can do! One of the high points of my time in the hobby came at the Gettysburg living history last year, singing Morgenrot with you, Sebastien, and Klaus. I'm hoping to have Die Gedanken Sind Frei and the Burgerlied ready for the next McDowell!

                            Freiheit und Einheit!
                            Michael A. Schaffner

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                            • #44
                              Re: Schlachtgesang

                              Originally posted by Ringgold
                              Schlachtgesang


                              Auf! Und laßt die Fahnen fliegen!
                              Schwerter, öffnet uns die Bahn!
                              Gott mit uns zu Kampf und Siegen!
                              Fein/d/e, bebt, die Rächer nahn,
                              Die Rächer nahn!

                              /T/ief in Feindes Auge schauen,
                              Treu vereint in Sturmesnoth,
                              Heißt auf unsre Losung Bauen :
                              Lorbeer oder Heldentod,
                              Ja Heldentod!

                              Ha, wie schön die Donner tönen!
                              Blitze flammen durch den Dampf!
                              Sieg, du leuchtest deinen Söhnen!
                              Vorwärts, Brüder, in den Kampf!
                              Fort in den Kampf!

                              :baring_te
                              Hey Mark, thanks again. I have made two corrcetions if you don't mind;-)
                              Best
                              J.H.Berger
                              Hornist
                              Jan H.Berger
                              Hornist

                              German Mess
                              http://germanmess.de/

                              www.lederarsenal.com


                              "Und setzet ihr nicht das Leben ein, nie wird euch das Leben gewonnen sein."( Friedrich Schiller)

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                              • #45
                                Re: german civil war songs

                                Originally posted by Pvt Schnapps
                                Jan, this is a great thread and you would be doing us all a fantastic service if the CD comes through. Let us know if there's anything we can do! One of the high points of my time in the hobby came at the Gettysburg living history last year, singing Morgenrot with you, Sebastien, and Klaus. I'm hoping to have Die Gedanken Sind Frei and the Burgerlied ready for the next McDowell!

                                Freiheit und Einheit!

                                Hallo Michael,
                                nice to hear from you!
                                If we manage the CD thing you we be one of the first to know!!!
                                Although I fear I won't be able to come to McDowell because We have a baby now and I will stay at home and my wife doesn't have holidays in May I hopwe to join you someday in the near future.
                                What about Shiloh?
                                I will put together some lyrics to be bound in a little songbok which I will send to you if yopu like to. You only have to search for the tunes if you don't know it;-)
                                There is a CD available on www.amazon.de with songs from Hoffmann von Fallersleben. I thinkmit is called "Die Gedanken sind frei".
                                Search for it;-)
                                Regards
                                J.H.Berger
                                Hornist
                                Jan H.Berger
                                Hornist

                                German Mess
                                http://germanmess.de/

                                www.lederarsenal.com


                                "Und setzet ihr nicht das Leben ein, nie wird euch das Leben gewonnen sein."( Friedrich Schiller)

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