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    Hallo Kameraden,
    does someone now something about the use of this item in the civil war? I think this very old instrument, which was easily to transport, because it made of steal, and easier to play like an Harmonica. I think this was very common in the former times and not mostly limited to the "traditional bavarian Music" like in our days.

    P.s I have searched on this forum, but I couldn't find something
    Christof Bastert a.k.a Charles Kaiser, Private,
    Co D, 17th Mo Vol Inf (Re)

    In Memory of Anthony and Joseph Schaer,
    Borlands Regiment/ 62nd Ark. Militia/Adams Inf./Cokes Inf.


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    Re: Jew's Harp

    The Jew's Harp, Jaw Harp, or whatever of the hundreds of names you can use is old. Certaninly older than our era. (I did some research about 2 years ago). It would have been in existence during the Revolution, although I cannot say if it was here in the States during that era in any a[ppreciable numebrs).

    It would have been easy to get, and probably easier than the harmonica (which comes into use over here in the 1850s from what I've read and heard) because it would be cheaper.

    Having said that I can't say I've read lots of accounts of "the boys gettin' together with their jew's harp's bones and whistles. " to have a "sing"...Of course, I know that tin whistles and harmonicas were around too, but letters and diaries don;t talk about "the great Tin whistle competition last night" any more than they mention jews harps.

    If I can find the sites I accessed befor, I'll let you know.

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    150thNY/3rd NC
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    • #3
      Re: Jew's Harp

      Here's a nice read:
      trump, juice harp, jaw harp, jews harp, jaws harp, maultrommel, munnharpe, clackamore, kubing, subing, mp3,
      Luke Gilly
      Breckinridge Greys
      Lodge 661 F&AM


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      • #4
        Re: Jew's Harp

        What I know, back then most of them were made of wood and was invented during the 1600's. Im sure some soldiers would have had one of these. Correct me if im wrong.
        Christian Thomas,
        The Salem Guard
        Appalachian Possum Mess

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        • #5
          Re: Jew's Harp

          Charles, this is one CW harmonica image, you will notice that he has not exactly the same face as one modern harmonica, I too much looked on events of the lads which played very well... But with a modern instrument.
          I hid somewhere in my computer a photo of Jew Harp I look and post here

          William Miconnet
          French Mess
          AES
          BGR & IPW Survivor
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          • #6
            Re: Jew's Harp

            It is this model for which you look?
            William Miconnet
            French Mess
            AES
            BGR & IPW Survivor
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            • #7
              Re: Jew's Harp

              Thanks a lot for both Images, William. I've contacted a Harmonica Museum in Germany, but they had no adequate Images of periodical Instruments, and the modern Jew Harps are not so ornamentical. I try to find one on Fleamarkets!

              Richter worked arround 1825, and was the Inventor of the Konfiguration of Harmonicas, which is still in our days Present in most of the Harmonicas
              Christof Bastert a.k.a Charles Kaiser, Private,
              Co D, 17th Mo Vol Inf (Re)

              In Memory of Anthony and Joseph Schaer,
              Borlands Regiment/ 62nd Ark. Militia/Adams Inf./Cokes Inf.


              German Mess

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              • #8
                Re: Jew's Harp

                Originally posted by Mcouioui View Post
                It is this model for which you look?
                Is it just me, or is part of the jew's harp supposed to look like a horseshoe? You can see rudimentary cauks and slots for the nails. Can't really judge the size but I don't think it really was made from a horse or pony shoe, but it looks like someone put in some work to make it resemble one.

                Hank Trent
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                • #9
                  Re: Jew's Harp

                  It does look like a horse shoe indeed. Christof why don't you forge one yourself?
                  Jan H.Berger
                  Hornist

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                  • #10
                    Re: Jew's Harp

                    Originally posted by Hank Trent View Post
                    Is it just me, or is part of the jew's harp supposed to look like a horseshoe? You can see rudimentary cauks and slots for the nails. Can't really judge the size but I don't think it really was made from a horse or pony shoe, but it looks like someone put in some work to make it resemble one.

                    Hank Trent
                    hanktrent@gmail.com

                    Yes you are right, that looks like that a lot i found this photo on Internet, it is given as dating the CW period, what is sure it is that Of Jew harps are old, we find already wooden in the 16th century and there had certainly in metal in the 17th. century, to see this picture of 1621 of Dirck van BABUREN (1590-1624)
                    William Miconnet
                    French Mess
                    AES
                    BGR & IPW Survivor
                    Never ever give up!
                    In memory of Steve Boulton, live the little story, lost in the history...
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                    • #11
                      Re: Jew's Harp

                      It's very doubtful that that jew harp was made from a horse shoe. If it were it would be very awkward to hold, as a cheap reproduction jew harp is already awkward to hold and 1/2 to 1/3 the size of a horse shoe. It's most likely just make to look as if it were one.
                      Andrew Gale

                      21st Arkansas Vol. Inf. Co. H
                      Company H, McRae's Arkansas Infantry
                      Affiliated Conscripts Mess

                      Cpl. George Washington Pennington, 171st Penn. Co. K
                      Mustered into service: Aug. 27, 1862
                      Captured: Spottsylvania Court House, Virginia, May 12, 1864
                      Died: Andersonville Prison, Georgia, Sept. 13, 1864
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                      • #12
                        Re: Jew's Harp

                        It is can be is born in the imagination of a smith who gave him this image because the shape inspired the horseshoe...
                        William Miconnet
                        French Mess
                        AES
                        BGR & IPW Survivor
                        Never ever give up!
                        In memory of Steve Boulton, live the little story, lost in the history...
                        I believe!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Jew's Harp

                          This one was definitely not made from a horseshoe but resembles its shape! Decoration!
                          Jan H.Berger
                          Hornist

                          German Mess
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                          • #14
                            Re: Jew's Harp

                            Ja, decoration...
                            Let us be two minutes on the place of the lad when he make him, there is a chance so that he is a smith, so that his work of every day is to shoe horses, If I am on his place, the idea comes to me naturally to the mind.
                            Someone will say, bad calculation and they will maybe be right, but I think that the work of amateur historian, it is to look at an object or the touch, and to see through him, even if it leads to the error... It is just my 2cts. ;)
                            William Miconnet
                            French Mess
                            AES
                            BGR & IPW Survivor
                            Never ever give up!
                            In memory of Steve Boulton, live the little story, lost in the history...
                            I believe!

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                            • #15
                              Re: Jew's Harp

                              As I recall, Stan Phillips in his "Excavated Artifacts of the Civil War" illustrates a dug specimen.
                              David Fox

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