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    58th Virginia Soldier

    http://www.58va.com/test_files/thowell.jpg


    I found this image on the web searching for a picture containing original NVA uniforms. I contacted the folks from the website and inquired about the date of the image. They replied promptly but the date is unknown. Any comments on this image? My thinking is that it is maybe early war because of the trimming on the jacket and the tall standing kepi. Assuming maybe it's an "off to war" image. Any comments?

    Does anyone have any other images of the 58th Virginia Inf.?
    Luke Gilly
    Breckinridge Greys
    Lodge 661 F&AM


    "May the grass grow long on the road to hell." --an Irish toast
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    Re: 58th Virginia Soldier

    I would say early war due to the trim on the jacket as well as the kepi. The cravat also denotes an early war image.
    Regards,
    Andrew Turner
    Co.D 27th NCT
    Liberty Rifles

    "Well, by God, I’ll take my men in and if they outflank me I’ll face my men about and cut my way out. Forward, men!” Gen. John R. Cooke at Bristoe Station,VA

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      Re: 58th Virginia Soldier

      Originally posted by 27thNCdrummer View Post
      The cravat also denotes an early war image.
      Regards,
      How so? Did cravats go out of fashion in fall of 1863? Does this broad statement apply to both Confederates and Federals or just Confederates? If they did go out of fashion or were not worn, please support your response.

      Preconceptions are ruining the hobby
      Dane Utter
      Washington Guard

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        Re: 58th Virginia Soldier

        I never said they went out of fashion by 1863. You just do not see too many soldiers fresh from the Gettysburg or other campaigns wearing cravats. Believe me they were still being worn by civilians. I'm not saying soldiers didn't wear them later in the war, just that there not as common then. By the way, if you ever see me at an event I'll be the only one wearing a cravat at a Bentonville event.
        Last edited by 27thNCdrummer; 06-18-2008, 08:58 AM.
        Andrew Turner
        Co.D 27th NCT
        Liberty Rifles

        "Well, by God, I’ll take my men in and if they outflank me I’ll face my men about and cut my way out. Forward, men!” Gen. John R. Cooke at Bristoe Station,VA

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        • #5
          Re: 58th Virginia Soldier

          Interesting to note, but I believe I see a crescent shaped brim on his cap...this may not be a "kepi" at all but something more akin to the "McDowell Brim Forage Cap".

          Paul B.
          Paul B. Boulden Jr.


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            Re: 58th Virginia Soldier

            You may be correct. I do feel strongly that this is an early war image....maybe in part because of the trim on the jacket....but it just sort of has that early war feel/look to me.
            Luke Gilly
            Breckinridge Greys
            Lodge 661 F&AM


            "May the grass grow long on the road to hell." --an Irish toast

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            • #7
              Re: 58th Virginia Soldier

              It's not typical of a richmond depot I is it? I can't recall ever seeing one trimmed down both sides...button holes and buttons. Has anyone uncovered a jacket similar to this one that knows the origins? I want to say that it's private purchase...probably early war during the commutation period.
              Luke Gilly
              Breckinridge Greys
              Lodge 661 F&AM


              "May the grass grow long on the road to hell." --an Irish toast

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