Illinois infantry men

[KPavia]

Hey everyone
Here are two photographs, which are copies, of two ggg grandfathers of my girlfriend. I figured these might be of interest to people here and have been posted with permission of the family. Here is the info on these guys:
Daniel Oberheim (first photo)
They don't have many records of him. What they do know is that he was from Mt. Carroll, Carroll county, Illinois. They don't know what unit he was with unfortunately, nor if he was KIA, wounded, or survived.

Henry Webber (second photo)
He was born in Germany on March 17, 1843. By the time of the war, he too was in Mt. Carroll, Illinois. Enlisted as a private on August 14, 1862 at the age of 19 and was assigned to the Co. I, 92d Ill. Regiment (mounted infantry).
According to copies of the muster roles that I have here and a copy of a letter from the war department for a commission of pension, Henry was never reported sick or missing and served honorably until he was mustered out with the 92d on June 21, 1865. FYI, he was married on March 31, 1866 to a nice little gal named Dora in Freeport, Ill. and lived happily ever after.

[fortdonelsonrelics]

Re: Illinois infantry men

Daniel Oberheim (first photo)
They don't have many records of him. What they do know is that he was from Mt. Carroll, Carroll county, Illinois. They don't know what unit he was with unfortunately, nor if he was KIA, wounded, or survived.


Here is some information I found:

Daniel L. Oberheim

Residence Ward's Grove IL;
Enlisted on 8/14/1862 as a Private.

On 9/4/1862 he mustered into "A" Co. IL 92nd Infantry
He was Mustered Out on 6/21/1865 at Greensboro, NC


Don't be surprised by the conflicting residence information. This is the only name that popped up in the records and I only typed in 'D' for the first name. Carrol County & Joe Daviess Counties (where Ward's Grove is) are ajoining counties. Some further research may render more information, however I believe this to be a significant tie, especially with the same units.

John Walsh

[fortdonelsonrelics]

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For what's it worth, here is the information on Henry Weber.


Henry Weber

Residence Salem IL;
Enlisted on 8/14/1862 as a Private.

On 9/4/1862 he mustered into "I" Co. IL 92nd Infantry
He was Mustered Out on 6/21/1865 at Greensboro, NC


Other Information:
Member of GAR Post # 80 (Nase) in Mt. Carroll, IL
died 11/15/1915

John Walsh

[KPavia]

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Excellent info! Thanks very much. My gf's family is going to be happy that someone was able to help them out in finding a bit more info on their family. And you're right- the fact that he was in the same unit as Henry, and now they share a descendent, is really amazing!
Thanks again! :)

[Ryan Halsey]

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Very nice photos.

[Rmhisteach]

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Interesting Picture. Curiously enough I am in the middle of reading
Three years with the 92nd Illinois The civil war Diary of John M. King.

RM

[KPavia]

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A question- can anyone identify the kind of belt plate that Daniel is wearing? I don't think its the typical US plate but maybe I just can't see clear enough.

[Salt Pork]

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could be a milltia plate?

Salt Pork

[ILYankee5]

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Very good chance that it is an early war militia plate. Especially since they have on what appears to be 1 of the Illinois State Jackets. It appears that this company wasn't mustered into service until September of 1862. If you would like more info on the 92nd check out this site. Great photos by the way.

http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/unilinf7.htm#92nd

[John of the Skulkers Mess]

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For what it is worth..... those look like standard dress (frock) coats to me. Back in the day (ha ha) when we jined up to do Ill. reenacting we were told to get the Jarny trimmed shell jacket, 9 buttons, no epaulettes. And we did. Since then I've looked at a lot of Ill. CW soldier pics (but sadly not all of them) and I could count on one hand the number of images that fit that bill. If that many. Most of the jackets did not have the trim/piping. I won't say ALL because there is always one in the crowd. Likewise, most had epaulettes, I won't say ALL because.... well, you know the rest.

And as far as the belt plate, I would guess that it is regulation issue and just doesn't show up well in the image.

Was there any gilting done by the photographer? The first guy's buttons look done, obliterating any view of the eagle. Maybe its the same with the plate. The second image look heavily retouched. Or even a charcoal (?) copy based on (or over) the original image or albumen.

My two cents worth...

Thanks for sharing the images.

John Pillers
a Skulker

[Magdalena]

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Thanks so much for posting the pictures! Henry Weber was my great great great grandfather and I had never seen a picture of him before. If anybody wants more information on him, I have done some genealogy research and have more details on him and his descendents.

[Cumpston1862]

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Kenny-

Typically but not always soldiers would get their photograph taken shortly after entering the service. So I would venture a guess that the photos were most likely both taken in the fall of 1862. Also since Daniel appears to be holding an enfield rifle it would also seem his photo was taken before he was made a mounted infantryman as he would have a carbine of some sort rather then a 3 band rifle.

[rkg]

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The fellows in the 92nd Illinois started out as foot soldiers. Then were mounted and placed in Wilders Brigade. They carried the Spencer rifle after they mounted. Rod, I too am currently reading 3 Years with the 92nd Illinois. It's a good read. Mr. King was from my county, and in his post war years moved to my home town for a while.

[KPavia]

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Wow, this thread is old but I'm glad new stuff is coming up.

Thanks so much for posting the pictures! Henry Weber was my great great great grandfather and I had never seen a picture of him before. If anybody wants more information on him, I have done some genealogy research and have more details on him and his descendents.

I'm glad that me posting the picture of Henry nearly 4 years ago has now served a more amazing purpose than just getting info. Since he is an ancestor of yours, that means that you and my wife (girlfriend at the time of my original post) are distantly connected. I'm sure her mom will love to get the info that you have and I can mail you a paper copy of the photo rather than having it here digitally. I'll send you a PM with my email.