Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

[James A. Page]

A little something different for your enjoyment--an original image of a Civil War Federal Zouave. The uniform is identical to those issued to "Veteranized" Indiana regiments from '63 and '64.

Have a great Thanksgiving,

Jim Page

[cod1tn]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Do you know which regiment he fought in?

[Jon The Beloved]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

James,

If this image is in your possesion.. do you mind producing a larger copy for our viewing? My mess is researching the 12th Indiana and we think this guy may be a point of reference. Would you let me know where I can find this CDV if not in your collection or saved to a file other than the one posted?

Thanks,

[Shockoe Hill Cats]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Gents,

By far, one of the best zouave researchers is (hands down) Shaun Grenan. Shaun has complied a database of most American and French zouave units. Here's the link from the online Zouave Database:

http://www.geocities.com/zouavedatabase/indiana/12thin.html

Shaun can also be found on the Forum (zouavecampaigner).

I just remembered that I had a couple 12th Indiana Veteran Volunteer Infantry files saved on my comp from... eBay, I think?

Appréciez!

[kaelin]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Jason and others
Thanks so much for posting these images....they are very helpful in our research! I have been in contact with Shaun and have been using his website for reference.

The sad thing is there isnt much uniform reference past Resaca, Ga. not even in their book that was published in 1866(fresh on the mind writing)

Trying to prove or see what they were wearing past Resaca, Ga in 64' so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Please contact me at my email or pm me here in the forum kaelin.vernon@gmail.com

Respectfully

[cod1tn]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Jason, thats a good image. I think if nothing else this proves they were wearing civilian hats not forage caps like one source claimed they did. They seem like they are proud of their uniforms, I would assume most wore them the rest of the war.

[CYoungJSU]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Mike,

Actually, Sgt. John Shultz of the 12th Indiana wrote, "Our jackets have arrived . The boys pronounce them a Grand Bore for they are not worth half the price 6.25 and are more style and show than worth."

Lt. Col. James Goodenow published a circular stating that "commanders of companies will see that the New Uniform[s]recently issued to the men of this Regiment are not to be disposed of under any circumstances whatever. The different companies will be made acquainted with the purport of this order at the first subsequent roll call after which any violations will be reported to headquarters."

Therefore, it seems as they may not have been as popular as one might assume...

References found in Don Troiani's Regiments and Uniforms of the Civil War

[cod1tn]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

That sucks they were forced to wear them. It seemed to me most men in the unit didn't get their picture taken until they received them. I haven't found any pre-zouave jackets images of the 12th yet so I assumed they liked the jacket. That is a helpful quote.

[Pat.Lewis]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Thank you Jason! It just hit Chris and I last night that the veteran vol. chevrons are going to tell us when those jackets were issued, and therefore whether or not those jackets were issued post-Resaca. If we can find out when the 12th IN got veteran-ized then we can tell when those jackets were issued.

Now, they were an April '61 regiment which means it could have been before Resaca, but those veteran furloughs don't really start coming in for units until the summer of '64, June, July, August. Because those are new coats in that group photo we can assume that they were acquired during that re-organization where they picked up that stripe. Long story short: if that is a late summer image (like I'm beginning to think it has to be) then we'll see those in November.

[ScottCross]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Rather than start a new thread, I'll resurrect this one to share this Indiana image currently on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360207403505

[ScottCross]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Here's anotherone that just came up on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360207403505

[Curt Schmidt]

Re: Indiana Veteran Volunteer "Zouave" Image

Hallo!

Creepy...

I have the visual impression of a Photoshopped head on a different undersize body.

:)

Curt