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    Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

    I found these hidden deep down in my computer and wanted to share. They appear to be former confederate soldiers lounging around Richmond shortly after the war. I cropped these images years ago so I'll have to go back through the LoC sometime soon if anyone wants the source info. I love the young looking guy in the third one wearing a two-color kepi and sack coat.

    And I didn't realize I had it, but I've included a bonus photo of a former slave/servant wearing the dreaded four-button "Confederate" jacket. Ta da!
    Last edited by GreencoatCross; 07-23-2009, 06:43 PM.
    Brian White
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    Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

    Nice pics! Very suprised to see shoulder straps (epauletts) that late....and I believe in the last image that's a 4 button mystery generic....too bad we can't see if he has an external pocket. Thanks for posting!
    Luke Gilly
    Breckinridge Greys
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    • #3
      Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

      Also looks like the former slave is sporting a rather battered quilted cloth hat as well.
      Ross L. Lamoreaux
      rlamoreaux@tampabayhistorycenter.org


      "...and if profanity was included in the course of study at West Point, I am sure that the Army of the Cumberland had their share of the prize scholars in this branch." - B.F. Scribner, 38th Indiana Vol Inf

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      • #4
        Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

        Love the images around Washington Square in Richmond (which are your two center photos). Lots of great Confederates still in their uniforms hanging about, and even some gear laying on the ground!

        By the way... hey Brian! Hope everything is cool!
        Jason R. Wickersty
        http://www.newblazingstarpress.com

        Received. “How now about the fifth and sixth guns?”
        Sent. “The sixth gun is the bully boy.”
        Received. “Can you give it any directions to make it more bully?”
        Sent. “Last shot was little to the right.”
        Received. “Fearfully hot here. Several men sunstruck. Bullets whiz like fun. Have ceased firing for awhile, the guns are so hot."

        - O.R.s, Series 1, Volume 26, Part 1, pg 86.

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        • #5
          Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

          Jason,

          Everything is cool....just working on some orders, hitting my local hometown tailoring warehouses, bars, etc.. And it wouldn't be a trip home to Cincinnati without a few research trips.

          By the way, did you every wrestle down that sky blue kersey or did it go bonkers again and smash up Needle & Thread a bit more?
          Brian White
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          • #6
            Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

            I lightened a few of the photographs and cropped them to show some details. The Confederate standing appears to have a pipe stuck through a few buttonholes, along with a tobacco pouch hung from a button. I wonder what the coloring is on the seated Confederate? Could it have a red band and matching red top? I know that the lighting conditions could also alter the look of an item, but it's still interesting. ~Gary
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            Gary Dombrowski
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            • #7
              Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

              Hey Gary,

              The cap on the seated Confederate would more likely have a sky blue band, with very likely a darker grey kersey top, much like the one pictured on page 163 Confederate echoes of Glory. In the wet plate spectrum, red would appear as black, and the band has a very light characteristc.

              Brian,

              Once the roll of kersey fell the first time, Annie and I both tried to lift the thing onto the counter to cut it, but it rolled off and plowed through the printed cotton section and put a nice long hole in the wall. It continued outside and down the hill and eventually came to a stop in the middle of Fairfield Rd., where a mini-van hit it and flipped over. I had to buy the whole bolt because of the skid marks left on it.

              (Actually, no, everything was okay, and I have 6 yards of the stuff on a shelf in my closet waiting to be made into a great coat and new pair of trousers!)
              Jason R. Wickersty
              http://www.newblazingstarpress.com

              Received. “How now about the fifth and sixth guns?”
              Sent. “The sixth gun is the bully boy.”
              Received. “Can you give it any directions to make it more bully?”
              Sent. “Last shot was little to the right.”
              Received. “Fearfully hot here. Several men sunstruck. Bullets whiz like fun. Have ceased firing for awhile, the guns are so hot."

              - O.R.s, Series 1, Volume 26, Part 1, pg 86.

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              • #8
                Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

                Is the guy in the first image wearing a big long tie in the style commonly worn today?

                I know that knot was in use at the time but you don't often see it like that.
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                • #9
                  Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

                  Hi,

                  I think that is his shirt that you are seeing, and not a tie.

                  Andrew
                  Andrew Kasmar

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                  • #10
                    Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

                    Sir, nice images, the first image is part of a photo in front of Castle Thunder prison in Richmond. http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/...89&postcount=1 That gent in the first image looks to be wearing a vest under his jacket and hard to tell but at 400% looks like his kepi has a number or letter on the crown. Yeah, on the second photo that fellow looks to enjoy a chew too.
                    Thanks for bringing them out.
                    Mel Hadden, Husband to Julia Marie, Maternal Great Granddaughter of
                    Eben Lowder, Corporal, Co. H 14th Regiment N.C. Troops (4th Regiment N.C. Volunteers, Co. H, The Stanly Marksmen) Mustered in May 5, 1861, captured April 9, 1865.
                    Paternal Great Granddaughter of James T. Martin, Private, Co. I, 6th North Carolina Infantry Regiment Senior Reserves, (76th Regiment N.C. Troops)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

                      These pictures are a great record of uniforms. They are also record of the sad state of affairs that was present at the time.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

                        One thing that stands out is the condition of the clothing. These guys look fairly well clothed. ~Gary
                        Gary Dombrowski
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                        • #13
                          Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

                          In the first image, the federal soldier behind the reb looks to be rather well fed. Perhaps a garrisoned soldier. You don't often see a "heavy" soldier in these pictures.
                          ~Matt

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                          • #14
                            Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

                            I like this photo, a cropped version from the LOC taken in front of St. John's Church shortly after the Federal occupation. It shows some of the local toughs, likely members of either the "Butcher Cats" or "[Shockhoe] Hill Cats" who fought for turf in the neighborhoods of Richmond. Jeff Davis' son was a member of the "Hill Cats." Their cut down uniforms and assorted military caps provide an interesting view into these pint-sized Rebs.
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                            Bob Williams
                            26th North Carolina Troops
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                            • #15
                              Re: Not a Whole Lot To Do - Richmond, 1865

                              Hi,
                              note how the 'mini-Reb' to the left of the tallest boy appearss to be wearing a two-tone 'Maryland' (as I think of them) kepi of what appears to be darker English Army cloth with a sky blue (?) band and top. Add this to the seated Confederate in the original post (3rd pic) who looks like he might be wearing the same to me. Also the man in the first picture looks to me like he has a different coloured top to his kepi - but that could be a trick of the light? I always (in my ignorance) associate this kepi type with specific units (Maryland - Infantry blue, Richmond Howitzers - Artillery red). Does anyone know if they were actually a fairly common (RD produced) generic type by the end of the war?

                              On another subject, at some point ex-Confederates were supposed to remove 'military buttons' I believe. I expect this was a little too soon after the war to come into effect?

                              Regards
                              Paul Jonsson (England, UK)

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