Worth taking a look!

[Michael Comer]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

That photo says 'Federal' all over it to me.

[J.H.Berger]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

I agree, sack coat , issue shirt US plate on cartridge box. one man is wearing boots , not that often encountered in the southern infantry as far as I know.

[D.W. Scalf]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

I'm just wondering what leads him to believe that these are Confederates, other than maybe the drum canteen. Is that a quilted hat on the stack?

[LWhite64]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

Nope, thats not Rebs, but it is still a very cool picture, and I yes I think thats a quilted hat. Wonder how they got the idea it was CS? Old South is generally very good with their IDs.

[Curt Schmidt]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

Hallo!

Sometimes folks see what folks want to see.

On the cynical side... Federal image: $400. Same image as Confederate: $14,000.

;) :)

IMHO, these can be complicated. As with guns alledged to be owned by famous historical people, one has a pesky and troublesome scale to weigh as it might be true.

Curt

[Citman05]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

Hmmm. In the description he states this is CS Infantry but unless you could show that this unit just captured a federal depot/supply train and ravaged it...im with you guys. The Tin Dum canteen is interesting, we read so many accounts that you could tell a new confederate recruit becuase they didnt have a federal canteen yet, so why A federal has one/would want one I am not sure but who knows...

Also when you look at the "sack coat", worn by the guy sitting down with no hat on, the front part of the coat seems to open up and button back to the coat, like a "rev war coat"...anyone else see this? am I wrong? I might be reaching, its so hard with photos and shadows.

But Its a cool image for sure, I look forward to more info comming out on it.

[PetePaolillo]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

The discussion of this photo was started in the Sinks early yesterday evening. Maybe the threads can be merged? My .02 is that it is a Federal image. federal blouse, fed trousers, fed issue shirt on one soldier, fed cartridge box, fed canteen, fed haversack, and fed type I and type II forage caps. I enclosed a larger version of the photo of the tin drum canteen? I am not so sure that is what it is. get a better look. I think he is holding his plate in front of the canteen. Also notice the leather sling?

http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/showthread.php?29219-Worth-taking-a-look!&p=184835#post184835

[robert-m]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

To me the image screams Federal. The pants look to be the sky blue and is in the same color as those of the images that I have had done by Wendel and Robert with my federal impression. The color wheel makes everything take a shade of gray. The forage caps look to be federal issue also,as with the shirts some look to be issue too. In my Federal impression I lapel my sack coat collar down. I ends up looking much the same way as this one does in the picture. If they are on a campaign then they very well could have picked up a quilted hat. It looks to be the hot part of the year. And I am sure we know that some sort of slouch hat is cooler than a forage cap or Kepi'. These are just my thoughts.

[Citman05]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

In my Federal impression I lapel my sack coat collar down.

This is what I first thought but, again it may be just shadow and eyes playing tricks, but dosent it look like its buttoned open? I see the shape of a button holding it open to the chest. Maybe just me and if no one else see's it I will forget it.

But even if it is, I dont know what that means becuase it still screams federal.

[robert-m]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

the side that is showing is the side that the buttons them self is on. So it might be a button after all. Remember the image is reversed from what is really is. But I found it is a lot cooler to lapel it open than to have it buttoned all the way up.

[roundshot]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

To me, this photo smacks of the work of photographer G. H. Houghton of Brattleboro, VT. He took many photos of the Vermont Brigade in early '62 and '63 and there is a whole collection of his photos in "The Image of War: Vol. VI." I have seen a similar concentric ring canteen in one of his photos. The weapons. by the way, appear to be Enfields.

A sample of Houghton's work from the Vermont Historical Society is attached.

[john duffer]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

In the photo Mr. Williams posted that looks to me to be the Ellsworth/Hardee/Swing stack with the front of the stack towards the right of the photo.

[PetePaolillo]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

The weapons. by the way, appear to be Enfields.

Yes, Thanks for the correction. I guess I was distracted by the Gigantic pieces of Hardtack those boys were feasting on. :)

[Michael Comer]

Re: New Photo of CS Infantry on Campaign????

I enclosed a larger version of the photo of the tin drum canteen? I am not so sure that is what it is. get a better look. I think he is holding his plate in front of the canteen. Also notice the leather sling?
http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/...835#post184835

I think you might be onto something there Pete. It doesn't really look like a canteen side in the close-up.

[Michael Comer]

Re: Worth taking a look!

I have merged the two threads about this photo to consolidate the discussion.