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    "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

    Friends,

    I came across some "camp shoes" being worn in this photo taken at Fort Woodbury in Arlington, VA.

    The photo also shows some other great details showing gaiters, dark blue trousers, a black buff NCO baldric, and some unique caps. See the full photo at http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collecti...2003004721/PP/
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    Paul Boccadoro
    Liberty Rifles

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    Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

    Great picture, thanks for posting it Paul. These are probably men of the 4th Michigan Infantry, I believe the fort was named after Col. Woodbury of the 4th Michigan. My 2 cents.
    John Suttorp
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    • #3
      Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

      4th Michigan again.
      Wow, who would have thought?
      They must have been a magnet for the 1860 paperatze (or however you spell it).
      Nice shot of an alternate way of wearing the Canada cap and a good one of the leggings.
      Does anyone make leggings like these instead of the elephant legs commonly found in the farbs?

      Erik Simundson
      Erik Simundson

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      • #4
        Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

        Hey John, according to the book, "Mr. Lincoln's Forts," Ft. Woodbury was named in honor of Brig. Gen. Daniel Phineas Woodbury; however, the Col. of the 4th Michigan was Dwight A. Woodbury -- so it may be a coincidence that the last names were the same. You are right that the 4th Michigan did occupy the fort in September, 1861.

        To determine the identity of this group, you can see in the larger photo that one man wears a "K" on his cap. Given the listing of the units/companies which occupied this fort, the units that did or could have had a Co. K there include the 4th Michigan (Sept. '61), 88th Pennsylvania (Feb. '62), 128th Pennsylvania (Aug. '62), 16th Maine (Sept. '62), and 1st New York Light Artillery (Sept. '64-May '65).

        Since the 4th Michigan was known for wearing the "Canadian Cap" and all the men in the photo are wearing dark blue trousers, gaiters, what appear to be waxed leather belts, and a black buff NCO baldric (all items associated with early war issues), not to mention the extensive other photos of the 4th at Ft. Woodbury and around DC wearing the same things, I think it is very safe to say this most likely shows men of the 4th Michigan.



        Erik, the man with the "camp shoes" appears to be wearing leggings possibly made of leather, but I cannot tell for sure. The other men in the photo wear white canvas leggings, and an outstanding reproduction of one type of these is made by 'The Man from New Jersey.' In fact, I just ordered a pair the other day and am looking forward to receiving them. You can see two friends of mine sporting them here.
        Last edited by PieBoy96; 01-10-2011, 08:47 PM.
        Paul Boccadoro
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          Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

          Erik,
          While not an approved vendor "ACW Knapsacks" make several differnt style leather leggings. The PA Inf legging would be the right candidate for you. Here is the website:

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          I have one of his Berdan knapsack repros and am extremely happy with it!
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          • #6
            Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

            Thanks everyone for your info on the leggings.
            I have bought several things from N J****** this past year and have been pleased by his work, in particular his Hathaway writing kit, absolutely brilliant.
            I shall order a pair for the early War impressions and to help keep the ticks off.

            Erik Simundson
            Erik Simundson

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            • #7
              Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

              I would agree these are likely 4th Michigan men. However, the fellow shown here is wearing an 'SNY' plate for his NCO sword. Go figure.
              Bob Williams
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                Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

                I think the leggings are leather in two colors; perhaps a darker or heavily oiled finish (worn by the man with camp shoes) and a lighter tan "russet" or natural leather (the other pairs). They appear to pull and contort like a woven fabric because of the thinness of the leather; original pairs are made from sweatband-weight leather and nothing close to the type used in accoutrements. Additionally, these leggings appear to be closed with buttons rather than straps or the grommet/loops (man with rammer standing under the piece).
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                • #9
                  Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

                  Gaiters, knives, pistols, NCO swords, and standing forage caps. Clearly these are farbs.

                  Seriously, though, I like the guy who has his fatigue blouse tucked in his pants. What a great example of "luck of the draw" in uniforms.
                  Carlton Mansfield
                  26th North Carolina Troops

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                  • #10
                    Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

                    Is the man holding the rammer playing "air guitar"?

                    T.J. Cox
                    Hiwassee, VA

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                    • #11
                      Re: "Camp Shoes" in Fort Woodbury Photo

                      Hallo!

                      "Is the man holding the rammer playing "air guitar"?"

                      IIRC, his job is hand them up, and take them back down... so the lad ramming does not have to jump up and down.

                      Curt
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