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    Confederate or Union or both?







    Hi list, could use some help.. We were looking at this image on another forum, and are undecided of what it actually shows..The description from the LOC states Confederate prisoners, but some sure do look Union.. Any thoughts? Could there be Union troops intermingled and visiting POWs? There is a definite lack of weapons and cartridge and cap boxes in this group..

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    Last edited by wilber6150; 12-14-2011, 09:25 AM.
    thanks

    Will Coffey



    Why did not the Southern States wait and see whether A. Lincoln would interfere with slavery before they seceded." A federal Soldier's words left in a court clerk's office in Bennetsville, SC
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    Re: Confederate or Union or both?

    thanks

    Will Coffey



    Why did not the Southern States wait and see whether A. Lincoln would interfere with slavery before they seceded." A federal Soldier's words left in a court clerk's office in Bennetsville, SC

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      Re: Confederate or Union or both?

      thanks

      Will Coffey



      Why did not the Southern States wait and see whether A. Lincoln would interfere with slavery before they seceded." A federal Soldier's words left in a court clerk's office in Bennetsville, SC

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        Re: Confederate or Union or both?

        thanks

        Will Coffey



        Why did not the Southern States wait and see whether A. Lincoln would interfere with slavery before they seceded." A federal Soldier's words left in a court clerk's office in Bennetsville, SC

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        • #5
          Re: Confederate or Union or both?

          thanks

          Will Coffey



          Why did not the Southern States wait and see whether A. Lincoln would interfere with slavery before they seceded." A federal Soldier's words left in a court clerk's office in Bennetsville, SC

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          • #6
            Re: Confederate or Union or both?

            No Confederates in that one.
            Lee White
            Researcher and Historian
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            • #7
              Re: Confederate or Union or both?

              So is this mislabeled at the LOC? Here is the description...

              Title: Chattanooga, Tennessee. Confederate prisoners at railroad depot
              Date Created/Published: 1864.
              Medium: 1 negative (2 plates) : glass, stereograph, wet collodion.
              Reproduction Number: LC-DIG-cwpb-02114 (digital file from original neg. of left half) LC-DIG-cwpb-02115 (digital file from original neg. of right half)
              Rights Advisory: No known restrictions on publication.

              Call Number: LC-B811- 2653
              LOT 4177
              Repository: Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division Washington, D.C. 20540 USA http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print
              Notes:
              Caption from negative sleeve: Confederate prisoners waiting at Chattanooga to be sent north.
              Two plates form left (LC-B811-2653A) and right (LC-B811-2653B) halves of a stereograph pair.
              Stereo filed in LOT 4177.
              Corresponding print is in LOT 4177.
              Forms part of Civil War glass negative collection (Library of Congress).
              thanks

              Will Coffey



              Why did not the Southern States wait and see whether A. Lincoln would interfere with slavery before they seceded." A federal Soldier's words left in a court clerk's office in Bennetsville, SC

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              • #8
                Re: Confederate or Union or both?

                It could just be a confusing label in that these are 'prisoners' that belong to the Confederates hence, "Confederate prisoners" and not necessarily prisoners that ARE Confederates. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone else but me, but these boys look very Federal to me...
                Charlie Thayer

                "Confederates were looking for some shoes, which were in short supply in the South because of the Union Blockade. The Confederates received gun fire instead of shoes." Quote of a random student in one of my classes.

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                • #9
                  Re: Confederate or Union or both?

                  That thought had occured to me, but there are other images in this series that do show armed Union troops and unarmed Southern prisoners..
                  There is one part of the original that does show two armed Union men...



                  Just a thought but could this group pf men be actually Yankees under guard for something, like deserting or other crimes? Or prisoners up for exchange?
                  Last edited by wilber6150; 12-14-2011, 10:41 AM.
                  thanks

                  Will Coffey



                  Why did not the Southern States wait and see whether A. Lincoln would interfere with slavery before they seceded." A federal Soldier's words left in a court clerk's office in Bennetsville, SC

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                  • #10
                    Re: Confederate or Union or both?

                    Heres part of the next image taken in the same series..




                    thanks

                    Will Coffey



                    Why did not the Southern States wait and see whether A. Lincoln would interfere with slavery before they seceded." A federal Soldier's words left in a court clerk's office in Bennetsville, SC

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                    • #11
                      Re: Confederate or Union or both?

                      This subject has already been discussed at great length back in 2008.

                      Authentic Campaigner
                      http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/showthread.php?16009-Confederate-prisoners-and-Union-soldiers-together&highlight=confederate+prisoners+chattanooga
                      Scott Cross
                      "Old and in the Way"

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                      • #12
                        Re: Confederate or Union or both?

                        I have also seen this photo captioned as Federals going on furlough.
                        Frank Siltman
                        24th Mo Vol Inf
                        Cannoneer, US Army FA Museum Gun Crew
                        Member, Oklahoma Civil War Sesquicentennial Commission
                        Company of Military Historians
                        Lawton/Fort Sill, OK

                        Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay -- and claims a halo for his dishonesty.— Robert A. Heinlein

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                        • #13
                          Re: Confederate or Union or both?

                          As Scott has said this has been discussed as well. Mr. Coffee, you have multiple posts without signing your first and last name. You must follow the rules to sign your first and last name.

                          And this thread is closed.
                          Herb Coats
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