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  • #76
    Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

    1st post on AC...what great reading! The attention to detail is astounding!

    I can only comment that my ancestor Richard Louis Cates of the 28th NC was captured that day (14 July) at Falling Waters. If these gents ended up in Point Lookout, he may have seen them because that is where he ended up.
    Russell M. Spry
    19th Alabama

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    • #77
      Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

      Originally posted by Cove Rebel View Post
      1st post on AC...what great reading! The attention to detail is astounding!

      I can only comment that my ancestor Richard Louis Cates of the 28th NC was captured that day (14 July) at Falling Waters. If these gents ended up in Point Lookout, he may have seen them because that is where he ended up.

      Sorry, forgot to sign that one!

      -Russ Spry
      Russell M. Spry
      19th Alabama

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      • #78
        Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:



        This site has an image of Thomas Jefferson Baldwin as an elderly man, he is purported to be the man in the center, the younger man is said to be the son of the older man to the right.

        Lauren Ehas

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        • #79
          Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

          the first man is ephrim blevins my great great great grand father and the 3rd man is ephrims father this picture has been passed down in my family for years they were from virginia around whitetop mountain
          W Blevins

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          • #80
            Meet the Blevinses, and one Baldwin?? Gettysburg CS Prisoners Identified!?

            I was discussing this thread with a friend of mine last weekend while we were at a living history at Gettysburg. Below you will find the service records for each man mentioned in this thread with ID's sorted by post number.


            From Post #16


            Robert P. Pickard: Residence Alamance County, NC; 25 years old. Enlisted on 7/15/1862 at Alamance County, NC as a Private. On 7/15/1862 he mustered into "B" Co. NC 1st Infantry

            * POW 5/12/1864 Spotsylvania Court House, VA
            * Confined 5/14/1864 Point Lookout, MD
            * Transferred 8/3/1864 Elmira, NY
            * Oath of Allegiance 6/27/1865 (place not stated)
            * Released 6/27/1865 Elmira, NY

            William B. Boggs: Residence Alamance County NC; 18 year-old Laborer. Enlisted on 5/8/1861 at Alamance County, NC as a Private. On 5/8/1861 he mustered into "E" Co. NC 13th Infantry.

            * POW 7/1/1863 Gettysburg, PA
            * Wounded 7/1/1863 Gettysburg, PA
            * Died of wounds 7/8/63 Gettysburg, PA


            From Post #31


            Ephraim Blevins: Residence Ashe County NC; 18 years old. Enlisted on 8/15/1862 at Iredell County, NC as a Private. On 8/15/1862 he mustered into "K" Co. NC 37th Infantry.

            * POW 7/3/63 Gettysburg, PA
            * Confined 7/3/1863 Fort Delaware, DE
            * Oath of Allegiance 6/19/1865 (place not stated)

            John R. Baldwin: Residence was not listed, born in Columbus Co.; 24 year-old Farmer. Enlisted on 4/23/1861 at Columbus County, NC as a Private. On 4/23/1861 he mustered into "H" Co. NC 18th Infantry.

            * Wounded 12/13/1862 Fredericksburg, VA
            * POW 7/3/1863 Gettysburg, PA
            * Confined 7/5/1863 Point Lookout, MD (Estimated day)
            * Paroled 3/6/1864 City Point, VA
            * Received 3/6/1864 (place not stated) (For exchange)
            * Transferred 3/6/1864 City Point, VA
            * Returned 5/30/1864 (place not stated)
            * Paroled 4/9/1865 Appomattox Court House, VA

            Andrew Z. Blevins...there are no men of this exact name who served in any NC regiment but there is one "Andrew Blevins," a 21 year old who died in June 1863. Clearly not the guy. Here is where it gets interesting though. There are a total of FIFTEEN men with the surname Blevins who served in the 37th NC Infantry, fourteen of whom were members of Co. K (see above entry for Ephriam Blevins), one in Co. B, and all from the same county. Going through their individual records only one man stands out in particular and he is...

            Alfred C. Blevins: Residence Ashe County NC; 29 years old. Enlisted on 8/15/1862 at Iredell County, NC as a Private. On 8/15/1862 he mustered into "K" Co. NC 37th Infantry. He was Surrendered on 4/9/1865 at Appomattox Court House, VA

            * Wounded 7/1/1863 Gettysburg, PA (Wounded in the right thigh)
            * Returned 10/15/1863 (place not stated)
            * Wounded 5/23/1864 Jericho Mills, VA (Wounded in the left hand)
            * Returned 8/15/1864 (place not stated)

            * Promoted to Sergeant 11/1/1862 (Estimated day)
            * Reduced to private 8/15/1863 (For disobeying orders)

            There is a clear discrepancy in the record for Alfred C. Blevins in that how could he have been reduced in the ranks to private in August 1863 if he was clearly absent from the regiment from around the time of Gettysburg? Retro-active reduction to ranks for disobeying orders? Did he refuse to join his regiment after he was wounded? Apparently his wound was slight if he returned afterward. How did he return if he was captured? Did he escape? Perhaps the record of his capture/parole is lost? If the identifications are correct this image may be one heck of a strange family portrait.
            Brian White
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            • #81
              Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

              Another question. By the way he's standing, does the man at right appear to be favoring his right leg?
              Brian White
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              • #82
                Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

                has anyone see the pre July 1863 photos of these men? Are we going on "he kinda looks like him" or have more advanced digital tools been applied?
                Bryant Roberts
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                • #83
                  Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

                  Bryan,

                  There appears to be some documents and photographs related to the Blevinses and Baldwin on Ancestry.com but I am not a member. From what I can tell the materials are from a number of descendents. There's some documents relating to John R. Baldwin as well as a photograph of his home in Lansing, North Carolina, taken after the war.

                  Some more information about the men. Andrew Z. (Zecheriah) Blevins was born in Ashe Co. North Carolina in 1800 which must disprove that ID claim; there is simply no way that guy in the image is 63 years old. Alfred C. Blevins was born in 1832 to a James Blevins but it's not known if James and Andrew Z. were brothers or some other relation. Ephraim Blevins was born in late 1842 to Andrew Z.

                  Maybe someone with a membership to Ancestry.com can look into this further?
                  Brian White
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                  • #84
                    Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

                    I had always thought that an explanation for the multiple and ill fitting rings on the hands had been the result of robbing from the dead...just a thought...
                    Tom "Mingo" Machingo
                    Independent Rifles, Weevil's Mess

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                    Marion Hill Fitzpatrick
                    Company K, 45th Georgia Infantry
                    KIA Petersburg, Virginia

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                    • #85
                      Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

                      Sir, here is the colorized version of the original image..Click image for larger version

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                      Mel Hadden, Husband to Julia Marie, Maternal Great Granddaughter of
                      Eben Lowder, Corporal, Co. H 14th Regiment N.C. Troops (4th Regiment N.C. Volunteers, Co. H, The Stanly Marksmen) Mustered in May 5, 1861, captured April 9, 1865.
                      Paternal Great Granddaughter of James T. Martin, Private, Co. I, 6th North Carolina Infantry Regiment Senior Reserves, (76th Regiment N.C. Troops)

                      "Aeterna Numiniet Patriae Asto"

                      CWPT
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                      "We got rules here!"

                      The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies

                      Battles and Leaders of the Civil War: Being for the most part contributations by Union and Confederate officers

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                      • #86
                        Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

                        Thanks for posting. Great colorized version.
                        Brian Wiswell

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                        • #87
                          Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

                          In each colorized image the uniforms are tinted a bit differently, grey and brown.
                          Mel Hadden, Husband to Julia Marie, Maternal Great Granddaughter of
                          Eben Lowder, Corporal, Co. H 14th Regiment N.C. Troops (4th Regiment N.C. Volunteers, Co. H, The Stanly Marksmen) Mustered in May 5, 1861, captured April 9, 1865.
                          Paternal Great Granddaughter of James T. Martin, Private, Co. I, 6th North Carolina Infantry Regiment Senior Reserves, (76th Regiment N.C. Troops)

                          "Aeterna Numiniet Patriae Asto"

                          CWPT
                          www.civilwar.org.

                          "We got rules here!"

                          The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies

                          Battles and Leaders of the Civil War: Being for the most part contributations by Union and Confederate officers

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                          • #88
                            Re: Closeups of the three Gettysburg prisoners:

                            Hallo!

                            Perhaps a "good" thing they did not colorize the lad on the left (viewer's right) into a blue gray British Army cloth Tait or RD uniform.

                            :)

                            Curt
                            What colors were dinosaurs Mess
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