Knapsack

[BishopLynch]

Just wanted to know what type of knapsack would be good for a Confederate Penninsula Campaign impression. Thanks

[paulcalloway]

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I think a "Kibbler" pack, pg 202 EOG would be a good choice.



These pictures are of a reproduction pack on Tim Welch's website, but there are several makers.

[hireddutchcutthroat]

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A Kibbler like Paul said or a Pritchard/Richmond depot, or maybe an import pack.

[paulcalloway]

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Or a Pritchard/Richmond depot, or maybe an import pack.

Yeah, the Enfield Pattern "S. Isaac, Campbell & Co." would be the bell of the ball. ************ still makes those I'm sure.

I'd just try to find out what the guys I was serving with were using (my messmates) and see if we could all get into similar packs.

[BishopLynch]

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Just wanted to know what type of knapsack would be good for a Confederate Penninsula Campaign impression. Thanks

Thanks for the information. I thought that the mex war pack would probably be a good choice, as well as the I&C, just wanted some second opinions. I have a pritchard pack made by Ethan Rogers, but there are several things that are obviously wrong with the pack. Just wanted a better one.

[Reserve]

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Greg,

The reason there are differences in the knapsack you have and the Pritchard is the simple fact that they are copied from different pieces that are similar. The knapsacks I made like that were copied from one that is now in the Morgan collection (I believe, it has been sold 3-4 times). That knapsack is associated with the Sharpsburg campaign and shares many similarities with the Pritchard, so it is probably a Richmond made product as well. If you are interested in more detailed information on that knapsack please contact me off board and I can send you the notes from my examination of that knapsack.

[BishopLynch]

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Ethan,
Didnt mean any insult to you in the last thread. Sorry if you took it that way.thanks.

[hireddutchcutthroat]

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A Mexwar style pack seems to be a good all around CS pack that could fit into alot of impressions.

I have seen pictures of Mr Rodgers´s packs and they look really good, but I have not seen one up close. Could you contact me off forum with the things you like and do not like on this pack? keepnhoakalive@yahoo.com

Thank you

[bonniegreenflag]

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While we are talking about kibblers, my pard has a question how do you keep it from sliding down your back? Its hard to be specific, the straps are "all wierd."

[Jefferson Guards]

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"A Kibbler like Paul said or a Pritchard/Richmond depot, or maybe an import pack."

Would the Pennisula Campaign be a little early for something like an I&C knapsack or is there evidence that these were being imported by then? What is the earliest evidence we have for I&C importation and use?

[1stMaine]

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Comrade Koenig,

I think the better question would be "what is the earliest known importation date for English pattern equipment and to where was it sent?"
Although referred to as the "I&C knapsack, it might better be referred to as an English pattern knapsack as that is what it was. it was the standard patern knapsack made for the British Army and I&C was simply an exporter of them. There were certainly issues of English arms and accouterments prior to the Penninsula campaign, the 4th Texas being the recipient of Enfield rifles.
Of course, I cannot state with any certainty when the knapsack first was imported for use, but since it had been a year since sessesion when the Peninsula campaign began, there was certainly sufficient time for contracts to be let and items to become available.
respects,

[hireddutchcutthroat]

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"A Kibbler like Paul said or a Pritchard/Richmond depot, or maybe an import pack."

Would the Pennisula Campaign be a little early for something like an I&C knapsack or is there evidence that these were being imported by then? What is the earliest evidence we have for I&C importation and use?

Keep in mind not all imports were British and not all British packs were Saul Isaacs and Cambell. I am unaware of the exact time that the first British packs reached our shores, but it is possible that there was any number of foreign surplus here. A large shipment or surplus English army items, shits, wash basins, tentage etc. arrived in San Fransisco aboard The Pan, in 1854. A detail of Alburtis Bowere's self portrait, may be wearing one of these shirts.

The British pattern desing, did exist well before the war, they were commonly imported and used by CS troops, but I do not know off hand a concrete date of their shipmment. It does not seem far fetched in my mind that the first blockade runner (Or a ship before the blockade.) carrying Enfield rifle muskets, could have had a crate of British pattern knapsacks with it as well.

[JimConley]

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Yeah, the Enfield Pattern "S. Isaac, Campbell & Co." would be the bell of the ball. ************ still makes those I'm sure.

I'd just try to find out what the guys I was serving with were using (my messmates) and see if we could all get into similar packs.

Just to add to your possible vendors here, Bob Serio also shows on his site that he will be producing the I&C knapsacks as well, if he has not began already.

http://missouribootandshoe.tripod.com/id15.htm

[tmdreb]

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While we are talking about kibblers, my pard has a question how do you keep it from sliding down your back? Its hard to be specific, the straps are "all wierd."

Without knowing what you mean by "all wierd" I believe it's been discussed here somewhere, and may be in the archives, that knapsacks styled after the Mexican War pattern fit and wear best when the straps are hitched up so that the bag rides right behind your shoulders instead of down your back.

[D F Smith Historic]

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Hi All,

After using a Mex War Bag for the last 8 years. I find that it rides according to how it is packed. If packed properly, It will ride propperly.

Don S