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  • #16
    Re: Anti-rust?

    Originally posted by stx View Post
    I had some pretty bad rust problems when I was there too. When I got home I took some really fine grade sand paper (I think blockade runner talks about how Sam Watkins used brick dust to clean his weapon so I kind of liken it to that) and used it to rub off all the rust. It seems like it may be taking off the bluing, but when it rusts over the bluing then it's really lost its purpose anyway. Lots of oil to finish it up and it was all good.
    Tim,

    You really weren't too far off the mark there. But even very fine sandpaper is probably too coarse. See instructions below from the Rules for the Management and Cleaning of the Rifle Musket, Model 1855. (I'm feeling lazy this morning. Full bibliographic citation provided upon request.)

    Note that it calls for flour of emery cloth. Emery cloth is readily available at most hardware stores and places that sell auto refinishing materials. For the brass parts, use rottenstone. Rottenstone, a form of decomposed limestone, can be found as a furniture finishing product. We issued it to the students at an NCO school for reenactors a few years ago to be used as brass button polish.


    TO CLEAN THE BARREL.

    1st. Stop the hole in the cone (3, e) with a peg of soft wood;
    pour a gill of water (warm, if it can be had) into the muzzle;
    let it stand a short time, to soften the deposit of the
    powder; put a plug of soft wood into the muzzle, and shake the
    water up and down the barrel well; pour this out and repeat
    the washing until the water comes out clear; take out the peg
    from the cone, and stand the barrel, muzzle downwards, to
    drain, for a few moments.
    2d. Screw the wiper (50, c) on to the end of the ramrod (6,
    e), and put a piece of dry cloth, or tow, round it, sufficient
    to prevent it from chafing the grooves of the barrel; wipe the
    barrel quite dry, changing or drying the cloth two or three
    times.
    3d. Put no oil into the vent (3, e), as it will clog the
    passage, and cause the first primer to miss fire; but, with a
    slightly oiled rag on the wiper, rub the bore of the barrel,
    and the face of the breech-screw (2, e), and immediately
    insert the tompion (55) into the muzzle.
    4th. To clean the exterior of the barrel, lay it flat on a
    bench, or board, to avoid bending it. The practice of
    supporting the barrel at each end and rubbing it with a strap
    or buff-stick, or with the ramrod, or any other instrument, to
    burnish it, is pernicious, and should be strictly forbidden.
    5th. After firing, the barrel should always be washed as soon
    as practicable; when the water comes off clear, wipe the
    barrel dry, and pass into it a rag moistened with oil.
    Fine flour of emery-cloth is the best article to clean the
    exterior of the barrel.


    TO CLEAN THE LOCK.

    Wipe every part with a moist rag, and then a dry one; if any
    part of the interior shows rust, put a drop of oil on the
    point or end of a piece of soft wood dipped into flour of
    emery
    ; rub out the rust clean and wipe the surface dry; then
    rub every part with a slightly oiled rag.

    TO CLEAN THE MOUNTINGS.

    For the mountings, and all of the iron and steel parts, use
    fine flour of emery moistened with oil, or flour of
    emery-cloth.
    For brass, use rotten-stone moistened with vinegar, or water,
    and keep free from oil or grease. Use a hard brush, or a piece
    of soft pine, cedar, or crocus-cloth.

    Remove dirt from the screw-holes by screwing a piece of soft
    wood into them.
    Wipe clean with a linen rag, and leave the parts slightly
    oiled.
    In cleaning the arms, great care should be observed to
    preserve the qualities essential to service, rather than to
    obtain a bright polish.
    Burnishing the barrel (or other parts) should be strictly
    avoided, as it tends to crook the barrel, and also to destroy
    the uniformity of the exterior finish of the arm.

    _________

    It is not essential for the musket to be dismounted every time
    that it is cleaned; for, after firing it in fine weather, or
    when there has been no chance for the wet to get between the
    barrel and the stock, it can be perfectly cleaned in the
    following manner.
    Put a piece of rag or soft leather on the top of the cone, and
    let the hammer down upon it; pour a gill of water into the
    muzzle carefully, so that it does not run down the outside;
    put a plug of wood into the muzzle, and shake the gun up and
    down, changing the water repeatedly until it conics out clear.
    When clear, withdraw the leather, and stand the musket on the
    muzzle a few moments; then wipe out the barrel (as given in
    the second rule for cleaning), and also wipe the exterior of
    the lock and the outside of the barrel around the. cone and
    cone-seat, first with a damp rag, and then with a dry one, and
    lastly with a rag that has been slightly oiled. In this way,
    all the dirt due to the firing may be removed without taking
    out a screw.
    If, however, the hammer is observed to work. stiff, or to
    grate upon the tumbler, the lock must immediately be taken off
    and the parts cleaned and touched with oil.


    Ron Myzie

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    • #17
      Re: Anti-rust?

      Thought you might want to see this...I just started a thread on a similar topic and ran across this:
      Regulations: Article XIII

      Para. 105: "All arms in the hands of the troops ... will be kept in the state in which they are issued ... Bright barrels will be kept clean and free from rust without polishing them; care should be taken in rubbing not to bruise or bend the barrel. After firing, wash out the bore; wipe it dry, and then pass a bit of cloth, slightly greased, to the bottom.... The barrel, when not in use, will be closed with a stopper. For exercise, each soldier should keep himself provided with a piece of sole-leather to fit the cup or countersink of the hammer "
      Luke Gilly
      Breckinridge Greys
      Lodge 661 F&AM


      "May the grass grow long on the road to hell." --an Irish toast

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      • #18
        Re: Anti-rust?

        When I'm going to an event where I know it's going to pour buckets, I'll coat my musket and/or sword with axil or brake grease then let it/them set for a week. As far as the musket is concerned, I'll conduct a full teardown and not just do the exterior parts. I treat the metal and wood. When I arrive onsite, I'll use a rag and remove all the excess grease. It works great. Five weeks ago, I packed and shipped my musket for a living history at Gettysburg. A buddy of mine was going to use the musket the following weekend which was High Tide. Well, I didn't receive the box in time for the LH so it got to sit in the box a little longer. My friend had to cancel due to family emergency. The musket is still in the box. Going to remove it tonight as I'm doing a short march tomorrow morning. Looking forward to seeing the particular sheen that only a good soaking of grease can provide.

        At events, it's not unusual for me to sit by a fire with a 2 or 3 inch square piece of wool dabbing some olive oil and ash onto the wool to clean rust from my musket and sword. For those who have never tried it, you're missing out. You don't need some modern cleaner with a high tech name - and price tag - to clean rust from metal equipment. I hear the treatment also works well on buttons, but I don't clean buttons. Just not my thing.
        Silas Tackitt,
        one of the moderators.

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        • #19
          Re: Anti-rust?

          Originally posted by Silas View Post
          I hear the treatment also works well on buttons, but I don't clean buttons. Just not my thing.
          Yeah, but do you pee on them, Silas? :D:D

          Ron Myzie

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          • #20
            Re: Anti-rust?

            Hello:

            When I was at Vicksburg last year rust was a major problem to everyones weapon. No one in my mess or the other messes remembered to bring oil, so we used wood ash. I did not have a problem with rust until about 2 mos. later. I was impressed at the ability of ash to clean. At events where I know it will rain I will used the fat from the slab bacon to coat my gun a couple days prior to the event or right before I leave the parking lot of the event. Makes the gun slippery to hold, but it works.

            Dale Winch

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