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  • #16
    Re: 6-wing musket caps?

    http://www.blockaderunner.com/Catalog/catpg1.htm Under each model of gun are a list of accessories including musket purcussion caps in the #11 size, 4-wing caps. They come in a plastic case from the manufacturer.

    http://www.jarnaginco.com/catframe.html About half way down the page is item #7011 percussion caps for muskets. They also come in a plastic case from the manufacturer.

    You can get a tin container with a good repro lable from either one to carry caps in. Personally, when I roll cartidges, I just roll up a couple extras with caps and make sure I have some extras already in my pouch so I have 10-20 more caps than I need so if I drop a few, its no worry

    I have bought caps from both of them, and they both are a pleasure to do business with. All are the 4-wing variety, size #11 and sized for muskets, unlike the #10 caps you get at Bass Pro shops and such.
    Last edited by Abrams; 09-09-2008, 03:41 PM.
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    • #17
      Re: 6-wing musket caps?

      Rich,

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      • #18
        Re: 6-wing musket caps?

        It would certianly be worth the time and extra effort to procure the 4-wing caps. Having been on the receiving end of them fraging, you certainly want to make sure not to put your pards through it.

        Kace
        Kevin 'Kace' Christensen
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        • #19
          Re: 6-wing musket caps?

          Jarnigan has raised the price for their RWS caps by 3.00 per container for 200.

          The local gun shop here in Jersey sells caps for 11.95 per container of 100. And I believe they are no longer made in tins of 200, but I could be mistaken.

          If you can afford it, you can purchase from the manufacturer at substantial savings, however, you have to order in excess of 25,000.
          William Lee Vanderburg
          26th NCT

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          • #20
            Re: 6-wing musket caps?

            The German caps are made by RWS, they make 4 winged brass and 6 winged copper caps, the latter ones having more power.
            I have not seen any 6 winged original caps so far but I have not seen so many anyway. The originals I know of were 4 winged copper. Parker Hale was offering these caps but I fear they are not made any more. They really had the correct shape like the originals and were made of copper.
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            • #21
              Re: 6-wing musket caps?

              I was talking to Tim Sheads at S&S Sutler and says the German Caps are only being made in tins of 100 as William was saying.
              Adam Ward

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              • #22
                Re: 6-wing musket caps?

                We have boxes of 200 and 1000 in plastic box, same my photo :(
                William Miconnet
                French Mess
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                • #23
                  Re: 6-wing musket caps?

                  By Rougeaud "French Mess"

                  For information, by 1814 the Americans Prelat and josuah SHAW finalizes the fulminate capsule of mercury which will be adopted by the armies of the world.

                  source: Le fusil d'infanterie Français (the French rifle of infantry) by CPT. Frank Demarta
                  William Miconnet
                  French Mess
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                  • #24
                    Re: 6-wing musket caps?

                    Interestingly if anyone takes a look at the book "Collecting the Confederacy" (written by Shannon Pritchard?), take note of the opening page on the Cap Box section.

                    Nobody is claiming the 6 wing caps that are in the cap box are period as their is no mention that I saw of the caps in any of the copy. But it is neat that the box was evidently used after the war and still survives.

                    Not knowing anything about the history of 6 wing percussion caps myself I wouldn't venture to say or suppose anything else.

                    Rob Weber

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                    • #25
                      Dug6-wing musket caps

                      I dug 6 wing caps in quantity in Conferderate positions (rifle pits) at New Hope Church, Resaca, and Spanish Fort. Have never found them in Federal positions - only the 4 wing type..........

                      Roger Hansen

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                      • #26
                        Re: 6-wing musket caps?

                        I have approximately 30 dug caps from Tn, 4 are six wing in my collection.

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                        • #27
                          Re: 6-wing musket caps?

                          So apparently they ARE authentic, but primarily for Confederates (or maybe Yanks using captured Rebel supplies)?

                          I sent an email to CCI, by the way, asking why didn't they make 4-wing caps and that their 6-wing caps were a fragmentation hazard on muskets and therefore banned by many re-enactors. The reply I received said that the recipient of my e-mail would pass it on to the engineering department. We'll see...
                          [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="Blue"]Richard Knack[/COLOR][/FONT]

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                          • #28
                            Re: 6-wing musket caps?

                            I have done research on the types of percussion caps the were used and all I have found is 4-wing. The 6-wing caps were modern made for sportsman shooting.
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                            • #29
                              Re: 6-wing musket caps?

                              Originally posted by coffey View Post
                              I have done research on the types of percussion caps the were used and all I have found is 4-wing. The 6-wing caps were modern made for sportsman shooting.
                              What about the ones mentioned a few postings ago in this thread that were dug up in Confederate rifle pits?
                              [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="Blue"]Richard Knack[/COLOR][/FONT]

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                              • #30
                                Re: 6-wing musket caps?

                                I would wonder whether or not any found 6-wingers today were not modern caps dropped by some hunter. I have seen 4-wing originals of course as well as no-wing musket caps. CCI makes a very "hot" priming compound for their caps which is really good for setting off modern in-line muzzleloder charges & in this case the fragmentation trait is a plus since it virtually eliminates the possibility in a in-line that is hard to decap or recap of a cap seizing onto the nipple. We of course as re-enactors don't appreciate that trait nearly so much as we dig bits of the caps out of our necks. Not saying there were not any 6-winger caps in the War era, only that I have not seen any either.

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