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  • #16
    Re: British Ready Round Pouch

    Hi,

    I have been noticing that when ever a soldier has English equipment on, it is all English. Meaning, that I have never seen a soldier wearing a English snake belt with a CS issue cartridge box or other piece of CS issue equipment. While I know these items were bought in sets, I always assumed that they were just put together with the CS equipment, and the depot issue whatever was on hand. But these CS photos make me think that that the depots kept these British equipment sets together, rather then spliting them up. Just a thought.

    Does anyone make one of these pouches?

    Andrew
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    • #17
      Re: British Ready Round Pouch

      Originally posted by Andrew Kasmar View Post
      Hi,

      No, I do not have any information on the photo. I found while looking through the forum today. I wonder if he was using it as a cap box, because I do not think he is wearing one.

      Andrew
      Or his cartridge box could be of the type that has a cap pouch sewn to the body underneath the outer flap...


      Matt Wright

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      • #18
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        Andrew,

        Richmond Depot has to org. round pouches listed on their website.
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        • #19
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          This photograph is the typical reversed image used for...(help me here photo enthusiasts).
          The ball bag, expense pouch, enfield cartridge box are great.
          Take a look nat the opposite side and you can discern something directly behind the trigger guard of his rifle. A cap pouch?
          Maybe or quite possibly.
          Good discussion point.

          Erik Simundson
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          • #20
            Re: British Ready Round Pouch

            Andrew,
            Richmond Depot has to org. round pouches listed on their website.
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            Kyle Russell
            Federal City Brass Band &
            26th North Carolina Regimental Band
            Hi,

            Actually, that is why I started this thread. I had never seen one before, and was wondering what they were used for. While I would love to own it, I am looking for one a little closer to my price range.:wink_smil
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            • #21
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              English gear went way beyond just the cap pouch, cartridge box, belt, scabbard/frog, and rifle. When an infantry soldier in the English army received his gear, it came from a box that included everything the soldier needed. There are references in the Mcrae papers to the infantry set, and from what I have read about the English army in the mid-19th century, this was again everything. When you opened the box, it had anywhere from five to ten sets. The first soldier would walk up and get everything he needs for a campaign except rounds, food and water. What he did have was the way to carry food and water and cook it to. He also received his gear for camping and sleeping. Some would scoff to say that CSA soldiers received the same, but several states imported English gear when the CS government in Richmond had left them high and dry to outfit volunteers. South Carolina sent plenty of captured Fed weapons north to VA and received only money in return. Then they ran plenty of stuff through the blockade to outfit soldiers in late 61 and early 62...
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              • #22
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                Hi,

                Thanks for the info.

                Andrew
                Andrew Kasmar

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Erik View Post
                  Take a look nat the opposite side and you can discern something directly behind the trigger guard of his rifle. A cap pouch?
                  Hard to say Erik, it does not look like anything beyond the outline of the belt. Seems like an odd position to wear one too - oposite of the cartridge box.
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                  • #24
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                    Brian - Great info! Very interesting to read too!

                    Thank you,
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                    • #25
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                      Hi,

                      I have been recommended, by a gentleman, this site for the purchase of one of these pouches. http://www.britishmilitaryequipments.com/

                      Andrew
                      Andrew Kasmar

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                      • #26
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                        Andrew,
                        I don't know about the vendor you've been given, but I have a full set of English equipment. Mine was given to me as a gift, and came from a variety of sources:

                        Ball Bag & Cap Pouch: Malcom Adams
                        Belt & Frog: Brad Malone
                        Box: L.D. Hanning
                        Scabbard: Jarnagin (hand-sewn version)
                        Bayonet: Original from Tim Prince

                        Attached are some photos with a few close-ups of the ball bag.

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                        • #27
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                          Sir, If I may throw in, here is another box which looks a little like the one from the post #25 link.

                          the item is, 8BBL.
                          My 2 cents, thanks.
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                          • #28
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                            Hi,

                            Thanks for posting the pictures. Do you happen to know what pattern your Ball Bag is? I have seen originals like yours, and Richmond Depot has one like the one offered by couple of vendors that I have seen. EOG CS has a black version of the one that Richmond Deopot is offering, and the EOG US has one that looks just like the one you have.
                            As of right now, am not sure who I am going to buy one from, I have been told that Duvall might be making them soon. So I think I am going to wait a little bit and look around. Thanks info.

                            Andrew
                            Last edited by Andrew Kasmar; 12-18-2008, 10:57 AM.
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                            • #29
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                              Andrew,

                              Hey Man, Look What I've Been Working On!! Available very soon...

                              Merry Christmas!

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by btfire View Post
                                English gear went way beyond just the cap pouch, cartridge box, belt, scabbard/frog, and rifle. When an infantry soldier in the English army received his gear, it came from a box that included everything the soldier needed. There are references in the Mcrae papers to the infantry set, and from what I have read about the English army in the mid-19th century, this was again everything. When you opened the box, it had anywhere from five to ten sets. The first soldier would walk up and get everything he needs for a campaign except rounds, food and water. What he did have was the way to carry food and water and cook it to. He also received his gear for camping and sleeping. Some would scoff to say that CSA soldiers received the same, but several states imported English gear when the CS government in Richmond had left them high and dry to outfit volunteers. South Carolina sent plenty of captured Fed weapons north to VA and received only money in return. Then they ran plenty of stuff through the blockade to outfit soldiers in late 61 and early 62...

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