Hat Repairs (II)

[sthabig]

This is a continuation of sorts from one of my past threads "Repro vs. Original Hat". I have reached a point were most everything is satisfactory except the liner. I was hoping that one would be able to share some photos of original liners (if such a thing exists) and where one would recommend purchasing a period pattern for a hat liner.

Thanks,

Tyler

[PetePaolillo]

Re: Hat Repairs (II)

what type of hat?

[Curt Schmidt]

Re: Hat Repairs (II)

Hallo!

I know of no true hat liner pattern, nor have ever seen one.

In brief and to over-generalize...

NUG...

Hat (not cap) liners fall into three groups.

The first is a continuation of the older "18th century" style where the lining was basically two squarish/rectangular pieces (sometimes one) whose top edge was hemmed with a draw string for adjustment.
(An example is the surviving James Poague hat.)

The newer second was basically two (sometimes four) squarish/rectangular pieces (sometimes one) with a circular piece for the crown. (An example is the Bishop Hill Colony hat circa 1860.)

And the third was a cheaper version, such as found on army dress hats where there is no liner, just a round(ish) painted paper insert glued to the crown.

Since hat sizes, hat crown height, and crown dimensions vary by hat-

IMHO, one does not really need a pattern. If you take the inside measurements for the height of the crown, and the diameter of the crown, that will give you a rough start for the liner pieces.
The total length of the side pieces should be slightly less (allowing for seam allowance) the circumference of your head OR the inside circumference of the hat itself.

Again, being brief and over-generalized...

Curt

[sthabig]

Re: Hat Repairs (II)

what type of hat?

Sorry,

Haven't taken a look at this post for a while now...

Peter,

I believe Curt termed it a "wide brimmed bowler hat"-civilian style, if I'm not mistaken.

Curt, thanks for the info.

Tyler

[sthabig]

Re: Hat Repairs (II)

Hallo!

I know of no true hat liner pattern, nor have ever seen one.

In brief and to over-generalize...

NUG...

Hat (not cap) liners fall into three groups.

The first is a continuation of the older "18th century" style where the lining was basically two squarish/rectangular pieces (sometimes one) whose top edge was hemmed with a draw string for adjustment.
(An example is the surviving James Poague hat.)

The newer second was basically two (sometimes four) squarish/rectangular pieces (sometimes one) with a circular piece for the crown. (An example is the Bishop Hill Colony hat circa 1860.)

And the third was a cheaper version, such as found on army dress hats where there is no liner, just a round(ish) painted paper insert glued to the crown.

Since hat sizes, hat crown height, and crown dimensions vary by hat-

IMHO, one does not really need a pattern. If you take the inside measurements for the height of the crown, and the diameter of the crown, that will give you a rough start for the liner pieces.
The total length of the side pieces should be slightly less (allowing for seam allowance) the circumference of your head OR the inside circumference of the hat itself.

Again, being brief and over-generalized...

Curt

Curt,

What material(s) do you recommend using as a hat lining?


-Tyler