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    So I am looking for someone or somewhere where I can find labels for packs of rounds. Also any "how tos" would help. I have never made period round packages before so what is the best paper to use? string to use? Where can I find labels for different calibers and from different arsenals? Thanks.
    Sam Harrelson
    Liberty Rifles
    Independent Volunteers
    Museum of the Confederacy

  • #2
    Re: cartridge labels

    I have found the "doodle pads" in Michael's, Hobby Lobby, etc. to work well and they go for about a dollar each. You should be able to get 4 tubes per page. I have also seen news print paper in U-haul stores, big rolls of it at a good price although I haven't used this yet. There should be links on this forum as far as how to roll your rounds and I'm sure someone else can place the links. Hope it helps.
    Paul Wolbeck, Captain
    33rd AL Inf

    Pvt. Ezra Walker
    36th OH, Co G Salem Light Guard

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    • #3
      Re: cartridge labels

      I am fine when it comes to rolling rounds. I just want to start putting my rounds in period packaging. I dont think you see it enough. Thats all. Thanks for the heads up.
      Sam Harrelson
      Liberty Rifles
      Independent Volunteers
      Museum of the Confederacy

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      • #4
        Re: cartridge labels

        Hallo!

        Don't forget the value of that pesky SEARCH feature, such as:



        ;) :)

        Curt
        Curt Schmidt
        In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

        -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
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        -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
        -Vastly Ignorant
        -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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        • #5
          Re: cartridge labels

          i use news print for my rounds and for the packages i use masking paper that u can buy at any hardware store in the paint section but the masking paper works good

          erik creekmore
          n.w 15th arkansas infantry
          Your most humble and obedient servant,
          Erik W Creekmore,
          2nd Col Vol Inf.

          Sgt Major, Territorial Battalion.

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          • #6
            Re: cartridge labels

            Since the title is about Cartridge labels here is a little information concerning Henry Labels and how cartridges were packed.

            Those of us with Henry rifles have our rounds packaged in boxes of 50 or 100 that we make ourselves. The labels with “100 Cartridges” are black with gold lettering and are the earliest labels. Most of the “50 Cartridges” labels are a light green and were also used in 1862 and later. Some have manufactured their own label using the computer while I have been able to copy original labels. At any rate it looks more authentic and is what the Civil War soldier would have had. Generally Henry owners carried 150 to 200 rounds with resupply close at hand, at least for the 66th Illinois.


            Andrew L. Bresnan
            Andrew L. Bresnan
            National Henry Rifle Company
            ICSS
            7th Illinois Veteran Volunteer Infantry
            Victory Through Rapid Fire!!!!!!!!!

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            • #7
              Re: cartridge labels

              Originally posted by sam H View Post
              So I am looking for someone or somewhere where I can find labels for packs of rounds. Also any "how tos" would help. I have never made period round packages before so what is the best paper to use? string to use? Where can I find labels for different calibers and from different arsenals? Thanks.
              You might want to try www.cartridgetubes.com Brett has a pretty good study going on them and also sells historically correct blank rounds.

              I am in the middle of putting together 100 arsenal packages from the Augusta Depot. I have to yet make the historically and dimensional accurate arsenal crate, but have all winter to get it done.

              Bundling them to look crisp takes some practice. First your rounds have to be dimensionally correct. Then you have to add a 1/2" green paper tube of 12 caps to one end. Not to mention using period correct string to tie the bundles with. If bundled dimensionally correct the arsenal packs will fit somewhat snugly into the lower half of the cartridge box tins. If not bundled dimensionally correct they will not fit. If not bundled dimensionally correct the 100 packs will not fit into the correct sized arsenal crate.

              Expensive to do and time consuming, but makes a great LH display - all that is missing is the correct weight of around 100 pounds...

              Jas. T. Lemon
              50th VA Corporal

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              • #8
                Re: cartridge labels

                Here are a few labels I have drawn up. If you have any artistic skills I recommend that (1) Study original labels and (2) draw the labels large, say about 5"x7". Then reduce them to the proper size on a copier. This helps them look less "computerized" or digital, yet the lines clean up well.

                I use picture framing (butcher type) paper. I also have a good off-white paper that works well for some of the arsenal packs.

                Colors of cartridge tubes and different strings are, I think, a whole different discussion. I use newspaper (from a big roll) for my cartridges.

                Sorry, some of the pics of arsenal packs are pretty "washed out"

                Another challenge is using Photoshop and Illustrator to get a good stamped label (.69 cal. Buck and Ball)

                - Jay Reid
                Dreamer42
                9th Texas
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                Jay Reid

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                • #9
                  Re: cartridge labels

                  do you think you could possibly make any Springfield labels ?
                  Your most humble and obedient servant,
                  Erik W Creekmore,
                  2nd Col Vol Inf.

                  Sgt Major, Territorial Battalion.

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                  • #10
                    Re: cartridge labels

                    Hallo!

                    Herr Erik...

                    IMHO, you should really think about using the SEARCH function as well as search engines on the Internets to review or look into Federal arsenal bundle labels that with the exception of St.Louis had been eliminated by 1861ish).

                    ;)

                    Curt
                    Curt Schmidt
                    In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

                    -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
                    -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
                    -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
                    -Vastly Ignorant
                    -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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                    • #11
                      Re: cartridge labels

                      When making Confederate "stamped" labels, be aware, these are really stenciled labels. Rather than trying to make a stamp or using computer graphics, a real easy and authentic way to make the labels is to make the stencil like the original and use that to get the right look.

                      I have only seen examples of these stanciled labels coming from the Richmond Arsenal. Richmond Arsenal also used printed labels.

                      For Atlanta, Augusta, Charleston, Columbus, Fayetteville, Lynchburg, Macon, Savannah and Selma I have only seen printed labels.
                      Harry Aycock

                      Chief Surgeon
                      Southern Division

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                      • #12
                        Re: cartridge labels

                        i was wondering if i did this right i think i did based on what i've seen but advice and criticism is welcome.



                        Your most humble and obedient servant,
                        Erik W Creekmore,
                        2nd Col Vol Inf.

                        Sgt Major, Territorial Battalion.

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                        • #13
                          Re: cartridge labels

                          Nice job on the packs. I'd tie the packs using a single piece of string rather than two pieces. Also, attach the label either under the string or over top of the string. Check out this page for some great photographic evidence of how it was done



                          Respectfully,
                          Ryan McIntyre
                          124th New York State Volunteers
                          Founder of the Squatting Bullfrog Mess & the "Leave your politics at home" Mess

                          "the Doctor says that I have got the Knapsack complaint that is I cant carry a knapsack that is a disease of my own getting up for I can lift as much as eney[sic] of the boys"
                          Joseph H. Johnston
                          March 16th 1863
                          Camp Convalescent

                          "It takes twelve men and a corporal up there [brigade headquarters] to take care of a few trees and salute the officers as they pass these are all the orders we have, but it is military I suppose..."
                          Henry M Howell
                          March 8 1863
                          In camp Near Falmouth

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                          • #14
                            Re: cartridge labels

                            Originally posted by 44 Henry View Post
                            Since the title is about Cartridge labels here is a little information concerning Henry Labels and how cartridges were packed.

                            Those of us with Henry rifles have our rounds packaged in boxes of 50 or 100 that we make ourselves. The labels with “100 Cartridges” are black with gold lettering and are the earliest labels. Most of the “50 Cartridges” labels are a light green and were also used in 1862 and later. Some have manufactured their own label using the computer while I have been able to copy original labels. At any rate it looks more authentic and is what the Civil War soldier would have had. Generally Henry owners carried 150 to 200 rounds with resupply close at hand, at least for the 66th Illinois.


                            Andrew L. Bresnan
                            Anyone have any printable/files of Henry bundle (aka box) labels? Looking for some for Bummers....

                            Best Regards...
                            Jay Stevens
                            Tater Mess
                            Independent Volunteers
                            Iron Man Mess
                            Reenactor Preservation Coalition
                            Friends of Historic Lone Jack

                            Wyandotte Lodge # 03, AF&AM

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                            • #15
                              Re: cartridge labels

                              I have looked around and i am wondering if any one can offer some help as far as where the 11th Geo was issued there rounds from during the war. working on this for bummer. i have a week left. :D
                              Robert Melville


                              We as Americans finish what we start. And dying for these Colors, or our brothers around us is no different. We will always remember the ones that have passed before us. Even though their bodies are committed to the depths their spirits live with in us and helps push for tomorrow

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