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    I'm new to the hobby and am building my impression. I would say it is a Mid-War Confederate impression. I am torn between the L.D Haning Federal and the Confederate models. I want to stay as authentic as possible using either. Aren't there reports of Southern soldiers picking up Federal haversacks and preferring them? I am very "green" to this hobby and want to be correct.
    Thanks,
    [B]Matt Stowe[/B]
    New to the hobby

  • #2
    Re: Confederate haversack question

    Howdy!

    Sir-

    Forum rules:

    Please sign all posts with your real full first and last name.

    Also, since you appear to be new here, the search function can be useful to find information related to this topic. Try checking there first. You might also want to contact vendors on the vendor list in here in order to ask them where they do research for their products. I'll bet they would be happy to help point you in the right direction.

    But... if anyone would like to help this man in his quest for knowledge, please do so.

    :D


    Thanks and all the best- Johnny Lloyd:wink_smil
    Last edited by Johnny Lloyd; 01-05-2010, 07:46 PM.
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    • #3
      Re: Confederate haversack question

      Matt,

      If you are going to be doing primarily Confederate, then I would suggest the Confederate haversack. Depending on the unit you portray, you may not have had a chance to pick a Fed one up. IMHO, it is better to go with Confederate issue first, and then acquire Federal equipment as needed.
      -Brian Jankowski
      Sally Port Mess

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      • #4
        Re: Confederate haversack question

        Oh, nevermind.
        Craig L Barry
        Editor, The Watchdog, a non-profit 501[c]3
        Co-author (with David Burt) Suppliers to the Confederacy
        Author, The Civil War Musket: A Handbook for Historical Accuracy
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        • #5
          Re: Confederate haversack question

          Thank you Mr. Lloyd and bdyanko for your advice and mostly support. Others don't seem as patient with newcomers.
          [B]Matt Stowe[/B]
          New to the hobby

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          • #6
            Re: Confederate haversack question

            No problem... :)

            We were all there at one point in our reenacting lives too. :D
            Johnny Lloyd
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            Without research standards, there can be no authenticity.
            Without the attempt at authenticity, all is just a fantasy.
            Fantasy is not history nor heritage, because it never really existed." -Me


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            • #7
              Re: Confederate haversack question

              Matt,

              A suggestion may be to refer to the unit's guidelines you may campaign with. That will only be as good as the unit's drive for a correct impression, and since you described yourself as a new person to the hobby, you may not be able to ascertain the possible unit's authenticity.

              Therefore my suggestion would be to choose what impression you want to portray. Mid war Confederate is a start but far from a solid decision. No problem, as I said it is a start. Once you have chosen the specific impression...read, read, read! And when you have read until your eyes cannot focus...get some glasses and read some more.:)

              If you are choosing a VA impression where you reside, then travel to sights, museums, collections, and look at uniforms and equipment. Basically to do this right takes far more time and research than money...though you will spend a few scheckels along the way for well made equipment.

              Once you have your impression picked and researched, look for a unit with members who post here or pose your impression to the forum where you may be directed towards members whom you can fall in with.

              Stay steadfast in your determination within this hobby. You will find that many folks along the way will help though some will not, several will become your friends and a few just want to steal your hounds.

              Good Luck.
              Rae G. Whitley
              [I]Museum of the Horse Soldier[/I]

              Tucson, AZ

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              • #8
                Re: Confederate haversack question

                Matt, I would suggest getting in touch with Dusty Chapman and the Stonewall Brigade or the Southern Guard. Both units are a good group of historians and I'm sure more than willing to help out a new recruit.
                Also, take this for what it is, but there are a lot of people out there that need to work on their own impressions before casting stones at others . . . . . .

                Good luck friend and please feel free to PM me with any questions!

                Justin
                [B]Justin Morris[/B]
                [B]Independent Rifles[/B]
                "And All of Hell Followed"

                Shiloh, IR Confederate Campaigner Adjunct Battalion, Cleburne's Division, March 30 to April 1, 2012

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                • #9
                  Re: Confederate haversack question

                  Hallo!

                  Welcome to the AC Forum, Herr Matt.

                  "Others don't seem as patient with newcomers."

                  You will find a mix, as the AC Forum "was not designed with the beginner in mind."

                  And it can take a little time to learn the culture and the ropes as you get initiated to the community and personalities here.
                  Taking a deep breath, counting to ten, and reviewing what you post as you go will help you over the "newcomer phase" better and faster (than shaking a stick).

                  ;)

                  Curt
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                  • #10
                    Re: Confederate haversack question

                    Alot of good people here helped me when I first started out. I like to help when I can. Also, feel free to drop me a line.
                    Frank Perkin

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                    • #11
                      Re: Confederate haversack question

                      Thanks so much! I want to learn, learn, learn and make a good representation. I'll get there! :D
                      [B]Matt Stowe[/B]
                      New to the hobby

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                      • #12
                        Re: Confederate haversack question

                        For CS mid-war impression, try to find a CS issue haversack if your primary impression is CS. I recommend something historically documented like the Bailey or the Moses Alexander. The Bailey is larger I believe.

                        You could get a Federal, but, it may not be as appropriate. In mid-war the CS issue haversack would be a pretty solid choice, but the Federal Haversack could present a problem at times, depending on the standards of the event.

                        I would not worry about getting the Federal unless it is truly scenario required and for mid-war CS, it is highly unlikely.

                        So, if it were me in your shoes (which I've been), get the CS.

                        For suppliers, send me a PM.
                        Last edited by cwpilgrim; 01-07-2010, 09:14 PM.
                        Regards,
                        John Raterink

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                        • #13
                          Re: Confederate haversack question

                          you might want to use confederate issue first the federal thing is location location location.east vs west. a well made white drill haversack hand stitched with button closure is all you need for now. and as for feeling new here. this is my 18th winter in this hobby.i still feel new here.

                          Bill Polachek
                          August Fox&Co

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                          William Polachek
                          August Fox & Co
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                          • #14
                            Re: Confederate haversack question

                            Hang in there Matt, you’re doing fine and the help & resources available on this list will yield excellent results if employed right (and yes, use the search engine, you won’t be disappointed). Some here can be critical and persnickety at times but that’s not all bad, being demanding can only improve one’s situation when learning, will make your impression/s much better, and save you money in the end. The key is though some members’ posts may seem personal at times it really isn’t, the same who appear to be impatient and chastising could also be the first to share their rations, blankets, etc with you were you in need if you believe as they do. In time you’ll share your knowledge and in turn challenge others if you think your advice & guidance would be squandered on half-efforts, and so the cycle repeats. So be of good cheer, there are excellent and helpful people here and if you’re looking to "build a better mouse trap” you’ve come to the right place.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Confederate haversack question

                              E J Thomas sells and has in stock a painted canvas body Confederate haversack. It is an accurate and reasonable priced if somewhat small reproduction of a Confederate Haversack.
                              Tom Dodson
                              47th Ga
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