Where to Wear Your Haversack & Canteen?

[1st Maine Trooper]

Re: Federal Haversack Questions

Mr. Schmidt,

Thank you. I had used the search function, and found that recipe, but I was not sure if it was for a Federal haversack, as all it said was "tarred". Thank you for your time though. And one more question, what weight of leather would I need?

Thank you very much.

Of the several Federal Haversacks I have had the pleasure of examining, I have noted that they are very thin, in the 2 to 4 ounce range.

Dave Myrick

[Skeet]

Re: Were to wear-Haversack & Canteen?

I've studied these pictures before and had a question. Would they have worn their haversack underneath their coat? In the one picture I can't tell. Cpl Dan Morgan 10thVA(IVR)

[pvtben]

Pictures of originals.

Hello,

I was woundering if anyone had or knew where i could go to find / get pictures of the originla moses alexander haversack, the baily haversack and the ticking strip po oy suspenders. Let me know all will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Pvt. Benjamin Neal Jenkins
19th La Vol. Infantry
Vance Guards

[theknapsack]

Re: Pictures of originals.

Mr. Jenkins,

Here is a picture of the original T. Otis Baker Suspenders from the C.J. Daley site:

[markj]

Re: Pictures of originals.

Greetings,

Aren't most, if not all, of the items you mentioned shown in the Confederate "Echoes of Glory?" Try looking there first. One or more may also be depicted in the two Time-Life series about the Civil War as well.

Regards,

Mark Jaeger

[Stonewall_Greyfox]

Re: Pictures of originals.

Mark,

Now I don't want to start a flame war..but your comment sounded a little harsh. Unfortunately, Echoes of Glory is now out of print...and so not all of us are fortunate enough to have a copy. I know at my county library alone there is a waiting list to check out any of the EoG books. I agree it's a great resource, but it's just not readily available as it may have been a few years ago. Don't want to beat a dead horse...just wanted to inform.

Paul B. Boulden Jr.

RAH VA MIL '04

[RyanBWeddle]

Re: Pictures of originals.

Mark,

Now I don't want to start a flame war..but your comment sounded a little harsh. Unfortunately, Echoes of Glory is now out of print...and so not all of us are fortunate enough to have a copy. I know at my county library alone there is a waiting list to check out any of the EoG books. I agree it's a great resource, but it's just not readily available as it may have been a few years ago. Don't want to beat a dead horse...just wanted to inform.

Paul B. Boulden Jr.

RAH VA MIL '04

They are all over the internet...Amazon, BookFinder, eBay...

For example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=378&item=6904650949&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

And no I disagree. Jaeger wasn't harsh in any sense of the word. FAR FAR too many individuals overlook the various resources listed on this site. It's not our fault when they can't utiltize them and why should one answer the same question over and over...and check with your library about an inter-library loan.

You live in Richmond? There have to be scores of universities, colleges, libraries, and bookstores that have these books....

Check:

http://www.richmondpubliclibrary.org

I am SURE they have copies in all branches, and are available to work through inter-library loan.

[Yellowhammer]

Re: Pictures of originals.

I agree with Ryan in his support of Mark. The search function is here for a reason and this question is somewhat simplistic given that those items are pictured in a large number of books.

The so-called "Moses Alexander" haversack is illustrated in no less than four commonly available volumes ("Fighting Men of the Civil War", "Confederate Sketchbook", "Tenting Tonight" from the old Time-Life series, and "Soldier Life" from the newer Time-Life "Voices of the Civil War" series.)

However, that haversack is unidentified. No one is sure of the source of the "Moses Alexander" identification but it is fairly clear it is not his. The Soldiers and Sailors System lists 4 "Moses Alexanders" as having served during the war. One was a CS artillerist and the other three were USCTs. In any case, there is no provenance linking that haversack and Moses Alexander.

[markj]

Re: Pictures of originals.

H Benjamin,

Here's another possibility: you might try directly contacting the Museum of the Confederacy to see if they can provide "hard" or digital images of the "Moses Alexander" haversack:

http://www.moc.org/excol.htm

And, depending on where you live, you might even be able to pick up the Time-Life books, "EoG," and the William C. Davis series ("Fighting Men of the Civil War," etc.) at places like "Half-Price Books":

http://www.halfpricebooks.com/neighborhood_locations.html

Indeed, only last week I picked up three unused volumes of the "Voices of the Civil War" series for only $3 apiece. You can pick up the "silver" Time-Life series books for usually $5-7. I've seen "Tenting Tonight" there on occasion. If all else fails, please contact me at:

markj@purdue.edu

and I'll do a little searching for you.

Half-Price Books has been a remarkably good source for many works I own--just within the past month I've furnished Randy Ubben ("Ubben Pipes") three hard-to-find works on tobacciana that I discovered and purchased for a song. "Borders" and "WaldenBooks" (which is also now a part of Borders) are also good places to look. If you check their websites you might be able to track down the items in question and obtain them for their current sale prices.

http://www.bordersstores.com/index.jsp

http://www.bordersstores.com/walden/feature.jsp?file=waldenlocator

Finally, "Fall Creek Sutlers" is only 30 minutes from my home and they do, in fact, sell the "Confederate Sketchbook" (as well as a variety of other works that might be interesting to you) so I can obtain it without any trouble. Please let me know if I can assist you further!

Regards,

Mark Jaeger

[fouler]

Confederate army issue haversacks

Looking for any information on haversacks used by the CSA that were coated with linseed oil/turps receipes.
Does anyone out there have info on these haversacks that were army issue?
Any information would be valued. Thanks, Jeff Sankus

Jeff, welcome to the forums. Please take the time to check the search feature for similar information on your subject of interest. - Mike Chapman

[Stonewall_Greyfox]

Re: Confederate army issue haversacks

For a start...the Museum of the Confederacy here in Richmond has a haversack which belonged to a Sgt. Bayley, the bag is painted using the recipee involving linseed oil and turpentine, there are numerous post regarding the treatment...While the strap is left unpainted. There is a picture of the outside of the bag in EoG.

Paul B. Boulden Jr.

RAH VA MIL '04

[Gallinipper]

Re: Confederate army issue haversacks

For a start...the Museum of the Confederacy here in Richmond has a haversack which belonged to a Sgt. Bayley, the bag is painted using the recipee involving linseed oil and turpentine, there are numerous post regarding the treatment...While the strap is left unpainted. There is a picture of the outside of the bag in EoG.

Paul B. Boulden Jr.

RAH VA MIL '04

Mr. Tom Arliskas has also been known to make a painted haversack of similar construction, but which is supposedly documented to AOT/Atlanta Depot issue. I have seen these for sale by him occasionally on Ebay. You might be able to contact him regarding any further information on the subject. I believe some members of this forum may know him personally, and/or may be able to provide contact info.

Rich Croxton

[fouler]

Re: Confederate army issue haversacks

Looking for any information on haversacks used by the CSA that were coated with linseed oil/turps receipes.
Does anyone out there have info on these haversacks that were army issue?
Any information would be valued. Thanks, Jeff Sankus

Jeff, welcome to the forums. Please take the time to check the search feature for similar information on your subject of interest. - Mike Chapman

I would like to add to my original post that the haversacks in question are the type that DID NOT have lamp black color added to the recipe. They have a golden color to them after curing and do darken slightly with age and sun exposure. I believe that the haversack that is in the Museum of the Confederacy collection is the lamp black recipe. I have done a search on this site as well. Another mystery yet to be solved.

Jeff Sankus
3rd Alabama, Southern Rifles

[bonniegreenflag]

Harrison Wiley's Haversack

I was shopping around on Bob Serio's website, and noticed that two things were very cheap:The Wiley haversack, and the single bag CS knapsack. Why are they so cheap? Are they authentic? The only reason given for either item is that the haversack is entirely machine sewn, as the origional was. Is this haversack PEC? I couldnt find anything on these items on the forum. I assumed they were worthy of discussion because of the high quality of his foot wear, though I certainly could have thought wrong.

[Iron Scout]

Re: Harrison Wiley's Haversack

Andrew,

Why not ask the maker of the goods why they're so cheap and if they're authentic/PEC. I'm sure Bob would love to discuss that with you. Not trying to be smart but some of those questions are best answered by the manufacturer so give him a shout.

Neill Rose
PLHA
Love & Wienges