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  • #16
    Re: Zouave Drill

    While in skirmish formation you are supposed to take any available cover by crawling kneeling etc.
    Robert Johnson

    "Them fellers out thar you ar goin up against, ain't none of the blue-bellied, white-livered Yanks and sassidge-eatin'forrin' hirelin's you have in Virginny that run atthe snap of a cap - they're Western fellers, an' they'll mighty quick give you a bellyful o' fightin."



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    • #17
      Re: Zouave Drill

      Allow me to clarify some confusion one of my earlier posts may have caused. The zouave drill used by Ellsworth's US Zouave Cadets was quite theatrical. The Zouave Drill manual translated by Elsworth was an actual manual of tactics translated from the same sources used by Hardee and McClellan.

      Regarding the reference to crawling, Robert is quite right. Skirmishers are instructed to take full advantage of cover.

      From Hardee's Tactics General Instructions for Skirmishers:

      "When skirmishers are ordered to move rapidly, the officers and non-commissioned officers will see that the men economize their strength, keep cool, and profit by all the advantages which the ground may offer for cover. It is only by this continual watchfulness on the part of all grades, that a line of skirmishers can attain success."

      You also need to remember that all the major manuals of tactics include commands for laying down, rising up, and loading and firing from the prone position.

      So, while advancing by crawling may have been a novel tactical improvisation used in action by the 11th Indiana, I don't think there is a command for, "As skirmishers, crawl."

      Again, Elsworth's Zouave Drill is just an adaptation of the same sources used by Hardee and McClellan. The very description of the of volume Dusty pointed you too says, "Book covering French Bayonet Excercise, Skirmisher's Drill. Hints for the soldier when in battle." That is the same bayonet exercise McClellan copied, the same skirmish drill Hardee copied, and some "hints" Elsworth may or may not have come up with on his own.

      Perhaps these hints include the suggestion that, under certain circumstances, sneaking up on the enemy by crawling or general stealth is advantageous. Even if that is the case, that is hardly a new concept in military tactics nor should it be consider a "zouave drill."
      Last edited by Yellowhammer; 04-01-2004, 08:45 AM.
      John Stillwagon

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      • #18
        minor point

        Ellsworth - two Ls


        Sorry to butt in,
        John Pillers
        John Pillers
        Looking for images/accounts of 7th through 12th Ill. Inf. regiments from April 1861 - April 1862

        'We're putting the band back together'

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        • #19
          Re: Zouave Drill

          Thanks. Typo
          John Stillwagon

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          • #20
            Re: Zouave Drill

            On page 107 of Ellsworth's, on the "menu" of the exhibition drill, he includes lying down as part of bayonet drill. There is a "Deploy lying down," a "couchant" after rallying by fours, a "couchant" after leaping to the rear, and also a "crawl to positions." Earlier, he includes firing while advancing from the prone position, and also a firing while advancing while kneeling!

            While he acknowledges and cites Hardee's and McClellan's several times in the text, the published version of Ellsworth's manual was meant as a tool to be used by judges at drill competitions at which the Zouave Cadets would appear. Ellsworth specifically points out that any unit accepting their drill challenge could use any manual they chose, for whatever branch of service -- this was merely the tactics which the Zouave Cadets were choosing to follow. "Form pyramid," "form cross," and "revolving circles" (p. 104) are unique to this manual, and clearly for show.
            Marc A. Hermann
            Liberty Rifles.
            MOLLUS, New York Commandery.
            Oliver Tilden Camp No 26, SUVCW.


            In honor of Sgt. William H. Forrest, Co. K, 114th PA Vol. Infantry. Pvt. Emanuel Hermann, 45th PA Militia. Lt. George W. Hopkins & Capt. William K. Hopkins, Co. E, 7th PA Reserves. Pvt. Joseph A. Weckerly, 72nd PA Vol. Infantry (WIA June 29, 1862, d. March 23, 1866.) Pvt. Thomas Will, 21st PA Vol. Cavalry (WIA June 18, 1864, d. July 31, 1864.)

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            • #21
              Re: Zouave Drill

              Originally posted by FranklinGuardsNYSM
              On page 107 of Ellsworth's, on the "menu" of the exhibition drill, he includes lying down as part of bayonet drill. There is a "Deploy lying down," a "couchant" after rallying by fours, a "couchant" after leaping to the rear, and also a "crawl to positions." Earlier, he includes firing while advancing from the prone position, and also a firing while advancing while kneeling!

              While he acknowledges and cites Hardee's and McClellan's several times in the text, the published version of Ellsworth's manual was meant as a tool to be used by judges at drill competitions at which the Zouave Cadets would appear. Ellsworth specifically points out that any unit accepting their drill challenge could use any manual they chose, for whatever branch of service -- this was merely the tactics which the Zouave Cadets were choosing to follow. "Form pyramid," "form cross," and "revolving circles" (p. 104) are unique to this manual, and clearly for show.
              My copy only has 63 pages, where can I get a copy like yours? :)
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              Damon Palyka
              11th Indiana Zouaves Co. H
              N-SSA Miller Award Winner 2004

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