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    What are the most correct ways to hem the cuffs of Federal trousers? Right now i have them rolled, and they are not hemmed at all.
    Ryland Breeding
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    "We have met the enemy, and they are ours - except those that ran." - William Kepler, Co. C, 4th Regt. Ohio Volunteers, 1861

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    Re: correct trouser hemming

    Originally posted by pvtRB_4thOVI
    What are the most correct ways to hem the cuffs of Federal trousers? Right now i have them rolled, and they are not hemmed at all.
    Text Deleted by Moderator due to factual inaccuracy. In the future, please be sure that your facts are correct before answering such questions. Don't guess. Thank you,

    John Wickett,
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    Last edited by LibertyHallVols; 04-07-2004, 04:49 AM. Reason: Information given is not correct.
    Bernard Biederman
    30th OVI
    Co. B
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    • #3
      Re: correct trouser hemming

      Check out this website for good pictures on how federal issue trouser cuffs were finished:

      http://www2.inxpress.net/jwedeward/o...l_trousers.htm
      Brian Koenig
      SGLHA
      Hedgesville Blues

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      • #4
        Re: correct trouser hemming

        Federal trousers were issued hemmed and in 4 sizes
        No 1 32 waist 31 inseam
        No 2 34 do 32 do
        No 3 36 do 33 do
        No 4 38 do 34 do

        I have view 10 pair of Federal trousers up close and view others on displays and none of them were not hemmed in some fashion. Several had been shorten with a hem turned in and whipped stitched.
        If you want to know how to correctly make the hem, I suggest buying Past Patterns Federal Trousers pattern. It has good historic notes and well written and illustrated instructions

        Brian Baird

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        • #5
          Re: correct trouser hemming

          Originally posted by Brian Baird
          I have view 10 pair of Federal trousers up close and view others on displays and none of them were not hemmed in some fashion. Several had been shorten with a hem turned in and whipped stitched.
          If you want to know how to correctly make the hem, I suggest buying Past Patterns Federal Trousers pattern. It has good historic notes and well written and illustrated instructions
          Brian Baird
          Apparently, I stand corrected. My apologies.
          Bernard Biederman
          30th OVI
          Co. B
          Member of Ewing's Foot Cavalry
          Outpost III

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          • #6
            Re: correct trouser hemming

            Check out the pics in Brian's post.

            All the original Federal trousers I've seen have a vented cuff.

            It has been hypothesized that this feature was to facilitate rolling the cuffs. With only a few issue sizes, rolling was often necessary for short men. There is a good illustration of this on the same website Brian references.
            John Stillwagon

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            • #7
              Re: correct trouser hemming

              Originally posted by Yellowhammer
              Check out the pics in Brian's post.

              All the original Federal trousers I've seen have a vented cuff.

              It has been hypothesized that this feature was to facilitate rolling the cuffs. With only a few issue sizes, rolling was often necessary for short men. There is a good illustration of this on the same website Brian references.

              Gentlemen,

              I beleive that the reason for the vent in the Federal issue trousers was to ensure a proper drape of the trouser over the shoe. Only really important for dress parade, inspections and the like.

              Bill Eiff
              [FONT="Trebuchet MS"][COLOR="DarkGreen"][/COLOR][/FONT]War-battered dogs are we
              Fighters in every clime,
              Fillers of trench and grave,
              Mockers, bemocked by time.
              War-dogs, hungry and grey,
              Gnawing a naked bone,
              Fighters in every clime,
              Every cause but our own.

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              • #8
                Re: correct trouser hemming

                Hallo Kameraden!

                Just an added "clarification" of sorts...

                I see two concepts at work in this question:

                1. What was the "hem treatment" or "vent reinforcement" methods commonly done by arsenals and contractors at the point of manufacture" And,
                2. What were some of the ways and methods soldiers dealt with excessive length of their trousers in terms of "field" modifying or "tailoring" garments for better fit once they were received.

                Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
                Curt Schmidt
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                • #9
                  Re: correct trouser hemming

                  Actually Curt, I think you are ready too much into it. :wink_smil
                  John Stillwagon

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                  • #10
                    Re: correct trouser hemming

                    I must agree with Curt on this and center in on his point about how men in the field delt with this ,i think this question is very important due to the issue sizes on trowser length. Can any one answer this and list evidence, As examples of this must exist (i hope ) ?

                    M Goddard

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                    Last edited by Curt Schmidt; 04-09-2004, 06:06 PM.
                    Martyn Goddard
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                    • #11
                      Re: correct trouser hemming

                      Hi John!

                      Indeed, I am...

                      I keep getting confused by the title wording at the top of the page:

                      "The Authentic Campaigner: A Website for the Authentic Civil War Living Historian."

                      :wink_smil

                      Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
                      Curt Schmidt
                      In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

                      -Hard and sharp as flint...secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster.
                      -Haplogroup R1b M343 (Subclade R1b1a2 M269)
                      -Pointless Folksy Wisdom Mess, Oblio Lodge #1
                      -Vastly Ignorant
                      -Often incorrect, technically, historically, factually.

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                      • #12
                        Re: correct trouser hemming

                        Was the hemming done with a machine in factories?
                        Ryland Breeding
                        --------------------
                        "In war, everything is very simple; yet even the simplest thing is difficult." - Karl von Clausewitz

                        "We have met the enemy, and they are ours - except those that ran." - William Kepler, Co. C, 4th Regt. Ohio Volunteers, 1861

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