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Re: Loyalist Arms 1854 Lorenz Is here!-BUY AN ORIGINAL!!!
Hello Mr. Klas and my brothers in arms! I dont know why and I cannot understand the reasons why the reenactment-or better yet living historians dont buy and use original Civil War firearms. I have been doing Civil War for a very long time and I use my original pieces, and I do not own any foreign made reproductions.
The biggest argument stated is price. Well, a new Enfield defarbed is $600 to $700 and dont forget the bayonet and sling and all the appendages. An original Enfield if you look at gun shows or Civil War Shows or just put feelers out there can run from as little as $800 and a nice one is $1200 to $1400. You buy an orginal piece and you can sell it for what you put into it and in some cases sell it for more than you paid! You can also start your own collection.
Another argument I hear is that taking an original piece out into the field will ruin it!!! Duh, they were maufactured to withstand the weather and battlefield conditions 14o years plus ago!!!! Part of any soldiers training is the care and preservation of his firearm. If it rains and your original piece gets wet, you oil the crap out of it-- for preservation sake use a product called Ballistol and just coat the gun and it cuts the threat of rust by 95%. If your repro. Italian firearm gets wet over the weekend you better coat that one too!! If you scratch the original stock that is what boiled linseed oil is for and use a little walnut stain.
The new Lorenz "looks" like an Austrian, but is in my opinion, a poor substitute for an original. I just heard from one of the people who post on the AC he just picked up and original Lorenz for only $400!! They are out there and you have to look!!
The internal lock parts on original Enfields, Springfields, and Lornenz rifled muskets and rifles are case hardend, and if maintained will last another 140 years. USE Boiled linseed oil for the stock-- the firearm if wet, take apart and oil, and store it in a dry open area out of the gun case.. Hang it on the wall--
Buy an original if you can. Was at the Mansfield Civil War show last month and across the table from me was a gentleman selling an orginal OHIO stamped Lorenz for only $700!!
You can have the barrels checked or relined by gunsmiths in Virginia or buy a new barrel for $300 to $400, nipples can be redone and rethreaded if need be and guns can be restored--parts are available.
Will have a chapter on this in the new Wearing the Gray Confederate Conpendium.
Tom Arliskas
CADET GRAY AND BUTTERNUT BROWN
Hello Mr. Klas and my brothers in arms! I dont know why and I cannot understand the reasons why the reenactment-or better yet living historians dont buy and use original Civil War firearms. I have been doing Civil War for a very long time and I use my original pieces, and I do not own any foreign made reproductions.
The biggest argument stated is price. Well, a new Enfield defarbed is $600 to $700 and dont forget the bayonet and sling and all the appendages. An original Enfield if you look at gun shows or Civil War Shows or just put feelers out there can run from as little as $800 and a nice one is $1200 to $1400. You buy an orginal piece and you can sell it for what you put into it and in some cases sell it for more than you paid! You can also start your own collection.
Another argument I hear is that taking an original piece out into the field will ruin it!!! Duh, they were maufactured to withstand the weather and battlefield conditions 14o years plus ago!!!! Part of any soldiers training is the care and preservation of his firearm. If it rains and your original piece gets wet, you oil the crap out of it-- for preservation sake use a product called Ballistol and just coat the gun and it cuts the threat of rust by 95%. If your repro. Italian firearm gets wet over the weekend you better coat that one too!! If you scratch the original stock that is what boiled linseed oil is for and use a little walnut stain.
The new Lorenz "looks" like an Austrian, but is in my opinion, a poor substitute for an original. I just heard from one of the people who post on the AC he just picked up and original Lorenz for only $400!! They are out there and you have to look!!
The internal lock parts on original Enfields, Springfields, and Lornenz rifled muskets and rifles are case hardend, and if maintained will last another 140 years. USE Boiled linseed oil for the stock-- the firearm if wet, take apart and oil, and store it in a dry open area out of the gun case.. Hang it on the wall--
Buy an original if you can. Was at the Mansfield Civil War show last month and across the table from me was a gentleman selling an orginal OHIO stamped Lorenz for only $700!!
You can have the barrels checked or relined by gunsmiths in Virginia or buy a new barrel for $300 to $400, nipples can be redone and rethreaded if need be and guns can be restored--parts are available.
Will have a chapter on this in the new Wearing the Gray Confederate Conpendium.
Tom Arliskas
CADET GRAY AND BUTTERNUT BROWN
You can polish and restore an original to look fairly correct, but great care must be taken when doing this or faint markings will be ruined in the restoration process.
If you look 140+ years old, you look more farbby in many respects that then newbie that shows up with 100% new gear (unless of course his trousers have a crease). Just my opinion.
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