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  • #16
    Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

    I purchased a set of books, which were copies of the original writing books used in the classrooms. If I remember, I will go back and look for them. I got them and started working on my penmanship, since I seemed to be writing so many orders at the time. I do agree that it takes a lot of practice.

    You must remember, that 150 years ago, everyone (well, everyone who was taught to read and write) was taught proper penmanship just as we teach our kids today to write and type.

    This being said, I think I will pull out my books and start over again. There is something to be said about writing letters instead of typing on the keyboard - it makes things more personal and thoughtful. Hmmm ...
    Barry Bowden

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    • #17
      Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

      Originally posted by Greg Renault View Post
      I second Rob's advice. On ink, I would add that while my first choice is McCaffery's oak gall, my second is Higgins Calligraphy, which is waterproof (the Higgins "Eternal" is not).
      Where do you buy these inks? I am also interested in learning the "art"

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      • #18
        Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

        'course, if you're left handed and really want to throw folks for a loop, try writing 'mirror image' writing with calligraphy! It keeps your hands clean, and looks really interesting. I discovered this as I am left handed and have two left handed kids. One of them naturally writes using 'mirror' writing and I was curious to see if I could do the same. It turns out to be easier (after a few minutes) than regular writing. If you're left handed, give it a try!

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        • #19
          Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

          Originally posted by civilwarcaptain View Post
          Where do you buy these inks? I am also interested in learning the "art"
          You can purchase Higgins Eternal at most craft stores like Michaels. The more expensive calligraphy inks may be purchased at John Neal Bookseller at http://www.johnnealbooks.com/ or Paper and Ink Arts at http://www.paperinkarts.com/.

          Keep in mind if your intention is learning how to write in a period style, you would use ink and pens like those used in the period, not those used today for modern calligraphy art. You really don't need a waterproof ink, which usually has shellac in it. It will gum up your pen if you don't clean the pen during and after each use.

          Use period handwriting manuals rather than modern calligraphy books to learn how to write in the Spencerian manner and one will have a more accurate learning experience.
          Virginia Mescher
          vmescher@vt.edu
          http://www.raggedsoldier.com

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          • #20
            Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

            Discovered this site on Specerian handwriting.

            Your source for information, materials and instruction pertaining to American vintage penmanship; Michael Sull is recognized nationally as the foremost practitioner and teacher of Spencerian Script.


            They also offer a catalog of products to aid in lessons.



            Additionally, they offer workshops teaching the methods.

            Regards,
            Last edited by lisa; 01-11-2008, 05:58 PM. Reason: typo
            lisa matthews

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            • #21
              Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

              I would underscore Rob's comments. I teach High School Art, and I am constantly telling my students to get the idea of "writing" out of their minds and to think of it (calligraphy)as "drawing" letters - that is, that there are steps/stages to writing parts of each letter, depending on the font style. Now, writng with a pointed nib is different in that you do not ALWAYS have to pull the pen towards you, as in calligraphy writing. Like was said, practice, practice, practice. May I suggest practice Os, straight verticle lines, and bending more at the wrist, rather than just using the fingers. Have fun!

              - Jay Reid
              Dreamer42
              Jay Reid

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              • #22
                Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

                but if you're older, shouldn't you learn to write copperplate? Isn't that what was taught in schools much earlier?
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                • #23
                  Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

                  But if you're older, shouldn't you learn to write copperplate?
                  I'm guessing that anyone much older than a teen-ager would have been taught that way. Perhaps schools in some areas taught Spencerian earlier than others.

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                  • #24
                    Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

                    For what it's worth,

                    With all the emphasis we deem needed for an authentic impression, it might be that we should learn to use period terms for the instruments as well. Pen, instead of "nib" and handle for the shaft which holds it.

                    Additionally, an ink eraser would seem to be in order, (with a whet stone somewhere in the desk to keep it sharpened0, and a pen wiper. Many travelling desk sets and writing kits contained pen wipers made from layers of cloth, with one end either sewn across the top to hold them all together, of held together with a small horn or shell button sewn through the laters. These cloth patches were often simple squares, but I have also seen round ones, rectangular ones, etc, of all sorts of colors. These were usually made up from cloth scraps and were used to wipe the pens clean between uses, or as ink built up.

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                    • #25
                      Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

                      You're right - if memory serves me, the nib is the "pen", and the handle is the "pen holder". Needless to say, these terms can cause confusion among the uninitiated.

                      I use scraps of material torn from a cotton shirt to wipe the pen. Gun-cleaning patches (not the polyester type, of course) work as well. Wet with spit, wipe well, and you are good to go.
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                      • #26
                        Re: How to write with nib pens & bottled ink

                        For those who haven't seen one, here is a link to some period ink erasers. The one at the top of the page is, I would say, the most common type. It is often mistaken for a cuticle knife or a scalpel.



                        Although of a later period, the pen wiper below is indicative of how fancy these things could get..



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                        Tim Kindred
                        Medical Mess
                        Solar Star Lodge #14
                        Bath, Maine

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