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Cody Mobley
Texas Ground Hornets
Texas State Troops
[HOUSTON] TRI-WEEKLY TELEGRAPH, October 28, 1863,
Wanted.
All ladies in Houston and surrounding counties who have cloth on hand, which they can spare, are requested to donate it to the ladies of Crockett for the purpose of making petticoats for the Minute Men of this county, who have "backed out" of the service. We think the petticoat more suitable for them in these times.
Cody,
If your looking in, would love to see the Jarnagin and original messtin photos if you have them.
Have had tinware from Jarnagin in the past, and have been impressed with it, if he does a messtin, I would give them serious consideration.
Also Cody, when do you plan on starting your I&C knapsack reproductions?
Dave Burt, ACWS, England.
David Burt, Co Author "Suppliers to the Confederacy: British Imported Arms and Accoutrements" "Suppliers to the Confederacy II: S. Isaac Campbell & Co, London - Peter Tait & Co, Limerick, Out Now
Cody,
If your looking in, would love to see the Jarnagin and original messtin photos if you have them.
Have had tinware from Jarnagin in the past, and have been impressed with it, if he does a messtin, I would give them serious consideration.
Also Cody, when do you plan on starting your I&C knapsack reproductions?
Dave Burt, ACWS, England.
Ditto on that last question!!
Soli Deo Gloria
Doug Cooper
"The past is never dead. It's not even past." William Faulkner
I know of another original also resides in the NC state museum along with the field made mess tin cover posted earlier in this thread. I know it's there as I saw it laying a table in the back room along with other confederate accouterments. I tried searching the link below but wasn't able to find the knapsack, some of the items are listed funny in the state catalog so I'm not surprised. Maybe some one else has more info on the one I'm referring to.
Liberty Rifles
93rd New York Coffee Cooler
[I]
"One of the questions that troubled me was whether I would ever be able to eat hardtack again. I knew the chances were against me. If I could not I was just as good as out of the service"[/I]
[B]-Robert S. Camberlain, 64th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry[/B]
For clarification, here's the originals that we've discussed:
1) Wisconsin Veteran's Museum
2) Augusta History Museum
3) SCCRR&M
4) MOC
5) Stone Mountain
6) Atlanta History Center
7) Shiloh NBP
8) Getysburg NMP x 2
9) NC Museum of History
10) Pamplin Park
11) Chimborazo Hospital (NPS System)
Pretty impressive list once you look at it. That's 10 (including the two at G'burg) English pattern knapsacks that we know of in this one thread. Wonder how many more are out there in institutions and private collections!? Small sample size but I think it gives us the perspective that these things were everywhere!
I recall one in a private collection that was claimed to be used by a U.S. Navy sailor that has been displayed at recent Mansfield Ohio Civil War shows. (I can't clearly state the provenance, but the display was mainly one man's identified uniform and effects.)
~ Chris Hubbard
Robert L. Miller Award Winner No. 28 May, 2007
[url]www.acwsa.org[/url]
I know of another original also resides in the NC state museum along with the field made mess tin cover posted earlier in this thread. I know it's there as I saw it laying a table in the back room along with other confederate accouterments. I tried searching the link below but wasn't able to find the knapsack, some of the items are listed funny in the state catalog so I'm not surprised. Maybe some one else has more info on the one I'm referring to.
I have looked at both of these items myself for to reproduce them. I do not think either of the items are english made. The pack looks to be a confederate copy. Nice stuff though.
I have looked at both of these items myself for to reproduce them. I do not think either of the items are english made. The pack looks to be a confederate copy. Nice stuff though.
Would you happen to have the museum catalog number for the pack at the NC state museum? When I saw the pack it was only briefly as it just happened to be in a back room on the table while I was going to look at some other items at the museum, only briefly glanced at it in passing. I would like to take a better look next time I'm down but can't find the catalog info via the website search.
Regards,
-Seth Harr
Liberty Rifles
93rd New York Coffee Cooler
[I]
"One of the questions that troubled me was whether I would ever be able to eat hardtack again. I knew the chances were against me. If I could not I was just as good as out of the service"[/I]
[B]-Robert S. Camberlain, 64th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry[/B]
Would you happen to have the museum catalog number for the pack at the NC state museum? When I saw the pack it was only briefly as it just happened to be in a back room on the table while I was going to look at some other items at the museum, only briefly glanced at it in passing. I would like to take a better look next time I'm down but can't find the catalog info via the website search.
Per Huse's own writing on all the I&C invoices I've viewed, frames were "disallowed" and the charges dropped. I can't remember if Cody's Ross & Co. pack had a frame or not, but all the examples I've seen are without. Even though he amassed huge debt purchasing items for the CS Gov't, Huse was quite the stickler with frivolous items that could be produced in the Southern states. Canteens and haversacks are also absent from Huse's purchases which I've always found interesting; only one purchase of each for the entire conflict (as far as records have shown).
Anyway, your mention of the NC pack possibly being a CS copy really has me interested. A December, 1862, running invoice for the English steamer "The Justitia" (per the McRae Papers) lists 10,000 sets of knapsack hardware, 500 some-odd lbs of "leather knapsack trimmings", 7000 yards of enameled cloth, "black bridle middlings for knapsack straps", etc. etc. Lots of information in this document to argue for CS production (potential) of domestic goods based on English patterns. There are actually several other examples of such items. Please give us more information or does anyone have quick access to the collection? I'd love to see some images of that knapsack!
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