S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

[ohpkirk]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

You may have to email them. It was on their website in the past.

[DBURT]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

Cody,
If your looking in, would love to see the Jarnagin and original messtin photos if you have them.
Have had tinware from Jarnagin in the past, and have been impressed with it, if he does a messtin, I would give them serious consideration.
Also Cody, when do you plan on starting your I&C knapsack reproductions?

Dave Burt, ACWS, England.

[DougCooper]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

Cody,
If your looking in, would love to see the Jarnagin and original messtin photos if you have them.
Have had tinware from Jarnagin in the past, and have been impressed with it, if he does a messtin, I would give them serious consideration.
Also Cody, when do you plan on starting your I&C knapsack reproductions?

Dave Burt, ACWS, England.

Ditto on that last question!!

[PanzerJager]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

I know of another original also resides in the NC state museum along with the field made mess tin cover posted earlier in this thread. I know it's there as I saw it laying a table in the back room along with other confederate accouterments. I tried searching the link below but wasn't able to find the knapsack, some of the items are listed funny in the state catalog so I'm not surprised. Maybe some one else has more info on the one I'm referring to.

http://ncmuseumofhistory.org/nca/nsearcha.html

[Jefferson Guards]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

The GNMP has two English packs as well as one painted linen mess tin cover.

[Mark Susnis]

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add the vistors center at Shiloh NBP to the list..sorry no pics or accession notes.

Mark Susnis

[Iron Scout]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

Good discussions folks,

For clarification, here's the originals that we've discussed:

1) Wisconsin Veteran's Museum
2) Augusta History Museum
3) SCCRR&M
4) MOC
5) Stone Mountain
6) Atlanta History Center
7) Shiloh NBP
8) Getysburg NMP x 2
9) NC Museum of History
10) Pamplin Park
11) Chimborazo Hospital (NPS System)

Pretty impressive list once you look at it. That's 10 (including the two at G'burg) English pattern knapsacks that we know of in this one thread. Wonder how many more are out there in institutions and private collections!? Small sample size but I think it gives us the perspective that these things were everywhere!

Regards,

Neill Rose
PLHA

[Minieball577]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

I recall one in a private collection that was claimed to be used by a U.S. Navy sailor that has been displayed at recent Mansfield Ohio Civil War shows. (I can't clearly state the provenance, but the display was mainly one man's identified uniform and effects.)

[Joe Walker]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

There is one at the Texas CW Museum ID'd to a 4th Texas man. It is missing the lid(top) and the bail.

Joe Walker

[D F Smith Historic]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

Hi All,

Maybe some one mentioned this , but there is an example of t a Mess Tin in Burbank California as well

All the best

Don S

[wade03]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

I know of another original also resides in the NC state museum along with the field made mess tin cover posted earlier in this thread. I know it's there as I saw it laying a table in the back room along with other confederate accouterments. I tried searching the link below but wasn't able to find the knapsack, some of the items are listed funny in the state catalog so I'm not surprised. Maybe some one else has more info on the one I'm referring to.

http://ncmuseumofhistory.org/nca/nsearcha.html

I have looked at both of these items myself for to reproduce them. I do not think either of the items are english made. The pack looks to be a confederate copy. Nice stuff though.

[PanzerJager]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

I have looked at both of these items myself for to reproduce them. I do not think either of the items are english made. The pack looks to be a confederate copy. Nice stuff though.

Would you happen to have the museum catalog number for the pack at the NC state museum? When I saw the pack it was only briefly as it just happened to be in a back room on the table while I was going to look at some other items at the museum, only briefly glanced at it in passing. I would like to take a better look next time I'm down but can't find the catalog info via the website search.

Regards,

[wade03]

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No I don't sorry man. I'll tell you what though this knapsack is quite the project! Turning out good though!

Would you happen to have the museum catalog number for the pack at the NC state museum? When I saw the pack it was only briefly as it just happened to be in a back room on the table while I was going to look at some other items at the museum, only briefly glanced at it in passing. I would like to take a better look next time I'm down but can't find the catalog info via the website search.

Regards,

[wade03]

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By the way. Does anyone know if all these packs came with frames? Or did some of them not have the wooden insert?

[Iron Scout]

Re: S Isaac Campbell Knapsack Reproductions

Wade,

Per Huse's own writing on all the I&C invoices I've viewed, frames were "disallowed" and the charges dropped. I can't remember if Cody's Ross & Co. pack had a frame or not, but all the examples I've seen are without. Even though he amassed huge debt purchasing items for the CS Gov't, Huse was quite the stickler with frivolous items that could be produced in the Southern states. Canteens and haversacks are also absent from Huse's purchases which I've always found interesting; only one purchase of each for the entire conflict (as far as records have shown).

Anyway, your mention of the NC pack possibly being a CS copy really has me interested. A December, 1862, running invoice for the English steamer "The Justitia" (per the McRae Papers) lists 10,000 sets of knapsack hardware, 500 some-odd lbs of "leather knapsack trimmings", 7000 yards of enameled cloth, "black bridle middlings for knapsack straps", etc. etc. Lots of information in this document to argue for CS production (potential) of domestic goods based on English patterns. There are actually several other examples of such items. Please give us more information or does anyone have quick access to the collection? I'd love to see some images of that knapsack!

Regards,

Neill Rose
PLHA