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  • WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

    I wish someone would reproduce these! This is SWEET




    Ken, Whaddya think of this piece?
    Regards,
    [I][SIZE=3]Jeff Gibson[/SIZE][/I]
    [SIZE=3][I]Consolidated Independent Rangers[/I][/SIZE]
    [I][SIZE=3]Formerly of Sunny Central Florida now the rolling hills of Tennessee[/SIZE][/I]

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    Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

    Anyone know what a 10ga. cartridge looks like?
    [I][SIZE=3]Jeff Gibson[/SIZE][/I]
    [SIZE=3][I]Consolidated Independent Rangers[/I][/SIZE]
    [I][SIZE=3]Formerly of Sunny Central Florida now the rolling hills of Tennessee[/SIZE][/I]

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    • #3
      Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

      Yea, just like a .12 guage, .16 guage, just a lillt bigger.
      Fritz Jacobs
      CPT, QM, USAR (Ret)
      [email]CPTFritz@aol.com[/email]

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      • #4
        Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

        Size isn't the question but how it is put together. Is it similar to a musket cartridge except with a different projectile?
        I just don't ever remember seeing one.
        [I][SIZE=3]Jeff Gibson[/SIZE][/I]
        [SIZE=3][I]Consolidated Independent Rangers[/I][/SIZE]
        [I][SIZE=3]Formerly of Sunny Central Florida now the rolling hills of Tennessee[/SIZE][/I]

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        • #5
          Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

          If you are interested in the weapon and ammo, a 10 ga is used by the actor Vigo Mortensen (sp?) in the recent cowboy movie "APPALOOSA". It's running on the cable premium channels and is available on DVD. Not a bad horse opera as they go.....


          Jeff Christman
          Liberty Hall Fifes & Drums
          Stonewall Brigade

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          • #6
            Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

            Chris,
            When I have made "Street Howitzer" rounds in the past I have used a BLANK looking much like the one you posted in the previous thread. More wadding to keep the look, and about 80gr of FF. Seems to work when I ram it home in the double barrel. But hell, I haven't been mounted in years, and then it was with a S-Word.

            I am a shotgun freak. I remember a few years ago seeing a box much like the one posted. The cartridge tubes are basically tin test tube shapes. Seemed about that size too... But if I remember it was about 1/2 the height...
            Mitchell L Critel
            Wide Awake Groupie
            Texas Ground Hornets

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            • #7
              Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

              In regards to the coat, that pic has always been IDed to a Fla dismounted cavalryman, I believe its the 1st FL Cav, but without my books here I cant be certain.
              Lee White
              Researcher and Historian
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              • #8
                Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

                Mr. White, you are correct the photos is of PVT Walter Miles Parker, Company H 1st Florida cavalry. According to Uniforms of the Civil War the coat was produced by a Virginia contractor, but it also states that it could have some NC provenance. Thanks


                Andrew
                Andrew Kasmar

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                • #9
                  Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

                  "I would be interested to hear what works in terms of blank scattergun rounds for the mounted CS n'actor.

                  I see no other way which would be acceptable safety wise than load upon dismount or holding muzzle skyward whilst on the hoof. "

                  Ist off what Mitch said. 2nd, I carry an original british 10 guage db and load it and carry it while mounted and I even like toting it muzzledown. With enough wadding , I never have a problem keeping the powder in. Now getting my fingers to grab up and put those little caps on in a hurry is a much bigger problem..at least for me.
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                  Patrick McAllister
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                  • #10
                    Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

                    Well, I like to use pieces of those paper thingies for curling hair(?) that I also make pistol rounds out of. They ( at least in my experience) practically disintegrate on ignition so there is nothing much left to burn. Having said that though I have been thinking about trying making up some more correct looking shotgun rounds and seeing if I can use cream of wheat in them like a bigger badder version of a fake pistol round. I like carrying my shotgun but they do eat powder. I have live fired mine and epxerimented with different loads with about 60gr working pretty well but for reenacting I use about 80 grains Like Mitch said. That works well and goes boom and boom.
                    Patrick McAllister
                    Saddlebum

                    "Bíonn grásta Dé idir an diallait agus an talamh

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                    • #11
                      Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

                      Hallo!

                      Just an aside...

                      Actually, the brass metallic cartridge "8 Gauge" used by Viggo Mortensen (Evertett Hitch) in "Appaloosa" is a prop Hollywoodism.
                      It is a 12 gauge that was cosmetically altered and enhanced to appear as an "8 Gauge."



                      (Unrelated, I have had the opportunity to buy several Winchester M1887 shotguns in 10 gauge, but always wimped out for the 12's.)

                      Curt
                      Last edited by Curt Schmidt; 11-20-2009, 07:26 PM.
                      Curt Schmidt
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                      • #12
                        Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

                        I actually saw some original buck and ball 12 gage rounds once... looked just like a large musket round. On a side note, .69 cal is really close to a 16 gage, so reloading overshot wads work well for general shooting. I wonder if the nitrated paper Dixie Gunworks sells coulded be folded overand trimmed to work as a over wad...? ZZ
                        [B][FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="4"][I]Zack Ziarnek[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
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                        • #13
                          Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

                          Speaking of dbl's, how would I go about finding a replacement forestock wedge? My SxS 12ga is an unknown English import, so I bet there are many different size wedges?

                          Mike Nickerson

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                          • #14
                            Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

                            "Speaking of dbl's, how would I go about finding a replacement forestock wedge? My SxS 12ga is an unknown English import, so I bet there are many different size wedges?"

                            Good question Mike. I would like to know also. Mine is intact- Ive managed not to lose it yet- but I would like a spare since its inevitable that I do. I know Zach Powell makes his own but I am not sure how to go about that myself not being nearly as handy as all that.
                            Patrick McAllister
                            Saddlebum

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                            • #15
                              Re: WOW! Shotgun cartridge box-Original

                              Patrick,
                              Any gun show should have a parts guy... Wedges do take some shaping... but a lil file should take care of it all!
                              Mitchell L Critel
                              Wide Awake Groupie
                              Texas Ground Hornets

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