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    Yes sir, I thought this a nice image of perhaps horse and mule shoes carried in kegs.
    Gotta think the nails can't be far away.

    This image touches on the huge job of the Quatermasters.



    These may be found here, Mathew Brady - working set.
    Mel Hadden, Husband to Julia Marie, Maternal Great Granddaughter of
    Eben Lowder, Corporal, Co. H 14th Regiment N.C. Troops (4th Regiment N.C. Volunteers, Co. H, The Stanly Marksmen) Mustered in May 5, 1861, captured April 9, 1865.
    Paternal Great Granddaughter of James T. Martin, Private, Co. I, 6th North Carolina Infantry Regiment Senior Reserves, (76th Regiment N.C. Troops)

    "Aeterna Numiniet Patriae Asto"

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    The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies

    Battles and Leaders of the Civil War: Being for the most part contributations by Union and Confederate officers

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    Re: shoe kegs and forage

    Mel,

    Fascinating photos!!! You are right! The quartermaster's job is exemplified if not magnified by these images. The manner in which they "crate" the forage in photo two is interesting. Kind of loose "slat-crates" that I had not seen before. Would be interesting for someone to re-produce with a few of these, certainly not in the quantity show here!! (ha!)
    Questions:
    1: In image one...can anyone identify what is in the crates on the left covered with canvas? The ones with the tags?
    #2: What would possibly be in the crates in the background ...piled so high, of image one? Note how they are off the ground. Hardtack crates maybe?
    #3: What does the writing say on the crates on the right of image one?

    Anyone?

    This is facinating to me. Thank you for posting it!!

    Ken R Knopp

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    • #3
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      Great Photos! I don't know how well regarded Ken Burns is among all of you but in his documentary it was stated that by war's end people were so sick of seeing war images that Brady sold his unpublished glass negatives to green house owners for replacement glass. Their images slowly faded out with time in the sun. One can only imagine what was lost.
      john gregory tucker
      Greg Tucker

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      • #4
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        What wonderful photos. I have been going over them in detail to glean all the suttleties. Real insight into the "behind the scenes" part of the war. I feed stock and handeling 1500 lb. round bales is a real challange with out speacial equipment...LOOK at how high those bales of forage are stacked!!! Paul L. Muller
        Save me a place at the fire,

        Paul L Muller

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        • #5
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          Great photos!

          I don't know why I haven't seen them before. Do we know what depot is pictured in the railroad one? Look how rough that track is! Beyond the obvious there's so much detail to study.

          And the wharf view is equally compelling. What beautiful schooners, including an early 3-master. Is that on the James?

          Thanks for posting,
          Andrew German
          Andrew German

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          • #6
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            Fantastic detail!!!! I could look at these for hours (and probably will!)
            Mike Ventura
            Shannon's Scouts

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            • #7
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              Andrew; Are there more than the two photos? I ask becouse I only see the bow and the flying jib of only one ship. Where are the scooners? I may not be looking in the right place, but they are great shot ...your right. plm
              Save me a place at the fire,

              Paul L Muller

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              • #8
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                PaUL -

                On my monitor, the photos are larger than the monitor screen, Use the slider bar on the side and bottom of the site frame to view the rest of the photo.
                Mike Ventura
                Shannon's Scouts

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                • #9
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                  Holy cow! down sizing the photo really makes a differance, Look at all the stuff. I'm still new at this computer machine , so thanks for the tip. plm
                  Save me a place at the fire,

                  Paul L Muller

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                  • #10
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                    Looking more closely at the forage wharf, I see the Capitol in the distance, so this must be near Alexandria on the Potomac.

                    Andrew German
                    Andrew German

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                    • #11
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                      Great catch, Andrew! Now that you've pointed it out, the capitol is obvious!
                      Mike Ventura
                      Shannon's Scouts

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                      • #12
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                        Andrew, sir, what an eagle eye you do carry..., indeed looks to be the US Capital Building up river.

                        To see the smaller photos of these two images, the link is http://www.flickr.com/photos/usnatio...043553/?page=1
                        The first is on page 26, and titled, Commissary stores at railroad station, (Stoneman's station).
                        The second is on page 24, Landing supplies at City Point, Va., 1864-5.




                        Ken, the box's under the tarp left of the tracks look a little off to my eye... my 2 cents, maybe coffins.

                        Mel Hadden, Husband to Julia Marie, Maternal Great Granddaughter of
                        Eben Lowder, Corporal, Co. H 14th Regiment N.C. Troops (4th Regiment N.C. Volunteers, Co. H, The Stanly Marksmen) Mustered in May 5, 1861, captured April 9, 1865.
                        Paternal Great Granddaughter of James T. Martin, Private, Co. I, 6th North Carolina Infantry Regiment Senior Reserves, (76th Regiment N.C. Troops)

                        "Aeterna Numiniet Patriae Asto"

                        CWPT
                        www.civilwar.org.

                        "We got rules here!"

                        The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies

                        Battles and Leaders of the Civil War: Being for the most part contributations by Union and Confederate officers

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                        • #13
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                          These two photographs are documented as apart of the Brandy Station Winter Quarters Campaign. The river is the Rapidan River. There are several photographs of this campaign.
                          Details about "campaign" or photos:
                          1.Largest Army winter quarters in US
                          2. George Meade commanding; Place-Brandy Station, VA Time-1863
                          3. "Qaurter Master" photo, turn the photograph upside down to read the words on the boxes, they are marked "Brandy Station"
                          4. The little cluster of buildings & large cluster of tents is the CENTER of the winter quarters at Brandy Station

                          For those of you who like horses, there is a great image of 18th PA Cav in winter quarters at this site.

                          For reference of photos see LOC or Timelife Book Wilderness to Cold Harbor, I think there are 8-10 pages of photographs from this camp.
                          Kaelin R. Vernon
                          SOUTH UNION GUARD


                          "Do small things with great love" -Mother Teresa

                          " Put your hands to work and your hearts to God" -Mother Ann Lee

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                          • #14
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                            You are correct, it is Brandy Station, looking up the tracks to the northeast. You can see Fleetwood Hill in the left background, and I presume the Miller House and buildings at the right of the grove there. Great shot.
                            Andrew German
                            Andrew German

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                            • #15
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                              Sir, agreed, The first image is Brandy Station and here is another slightly different view of this scene from the Civil War Trust's Photostream.

                              Sir, in the second closeup image in the first post..., sure looks like the US Capital Building in the up river back ground.

                              Here is a photo looking north from Axexandria Va. The US Capital Building is some 6 miles distant.
                              Thanks for the consideration.


                              Last edited by yeoman; 01-21-2011, 08:30 PM. Reason: Add modern photo
                              Mel Hadden, Husband to Julia Marie, Maternal Great Granddaughter of
                              Eben Lowder, Corporal, Co. H 14th Regiment N.C. Troops (4th Regiment N.C. Volunteers, Co. H, The Stanly Marksmen) Mustered in May 5, 1861, captured April 9, 1865.
                              Paternal Great Granddaughter of James T. Martin, Private, Co. I, 6th North Carolina Infantry Regiment Senior Reserves, (76th Regiment N.C. Troops)

                              "Aeterna Numiniet Patriae Asto"

                              CWPT
                              www.civilwar.org.

                              "We got rules here!"

                              The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies

                              Battles and Leaders of the Civil War: Being for the most part contributations by Union and Confederate officers

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