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    In 1847 George Steele first came to America from Leeds, England and settled briefly in New York. He then moved to Nashville, TN., met up with William Miller and formed what was to become one of the largest private saddle building establishments in the southeast, Steele and Miller. There is an excellent history of the company in Ken Knopp's second book, “Saddle Makers of the Confederacy.”

    This afternoon, I was fortunate to meet with George's great, great, grandson, Ed Steele at the 4th incarnation of the Steele Saddle Tree, Co. While it is tucked away in a very remote part of Cheatham County Tennessee, it was impressive to see several buildings dedicated to the building of saddle trees. It was also really something to see racks with literally hundreds of trees waiting for shipment. Ed was very friendly and we sat down in his office and he told me that he is already supplying a few McClellan trees for a couple of saddle makers. He told me that he has been in communication with others along this line with the most notable being Karl Pepper of Glenn Pier Depot. In fact, he said that he had an email from Karl that he needed to reply to as he was very serious about the possibilities.

    As we sat there, Ed brought out different portions of trees that were still in rough, unfinished status and it was clear that they had been in a rotary device that removes the wood as it turns and follows a mold or master. The completed bars, cantle and pommel would then be fashioned together and shipped for finishing. This is where the challenge begins. Ed said flat out that he is definitely interested in this niche market because he is aware that there is now a great shortage of suppliers and he said clearly that he can copy any saddle tree that we want to make. But the thing is that he is a production shop and when he sets up to make them, he needs to make several and he does not have a person to do the final sanding/finishing which prepares them for painting and then covered in rawhide. He basically told me that if I wanted a second job or if my son did, then we might be in business. That is not an option for me at the moment, but given his need and desire to make and sell trees, and the need of many saddlemakers to get good trees (especially as we enter the 150's and reenacting interest grows) then I am certain that this will be something that will be solved. We closed by exchanging contact information and I told him that I would speak with Karl soon and see what direction he thinks it is going in and offered my services as a gopher or my saddle collection for models should he need either.

    I promised you all that I would report my findings once I was able to visit the location. I am not sure where it will go from here but I am optimistic and will try to keep you updated as I find out more details.

    regards,
    Mark
    J. Mark Choate
    7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

    "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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    Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

    Mark - Thanks for the info and the extra effort. Nice to see things moving beyond "campfire talk" stage!
    Mike Ventura
    Shannon's Scouts

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    • #3
      Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

      Mark,

      Thanks for the insight into the operation! The question that I, and my 1st Maine compadres have, is is there someone out there who can do the rawhiding? John Tobey in our outfit, crafted several trees based on originals in his collection (McClellan '59's) and I am sure could make some more, but rawhiding has been near to impossible to get done on any sort of reliable or quality basis. Mr. Steele can produce the trees in the raw component form, but is there anyone to complete the next step of rawhiding?

      Take care,
      Tom Craig
      1st Maine Cavarly
      Tom Craig

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      • #4
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        Tom, There is a source here in Iowa at Des Moines that has done work on Texas trees doing the rawhiding. I am going to give him a call and see if he can work on other stuff.
        Dan Chmelar
        Semper Fi
        -ONV
        -WIG
        -CIR!

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        • #5
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          Yes, Tom and all, Ed showed me some trees that he has had covered with rawhide and that he has access to. It is the middle portion of the process (smoothing and sanding from the milled components) that he is trying to work with. I am talking with someone as a possible workaround on this area. Could be a win/win if it works.

          Also, I found out that the person that did the rawhide covering for the James trees out of Georgia is still in operation.

          The more I am delving into this the more it appears that the pieces are out there and it is a matter of putting them all in contact and establishing a working relationship. An axiom of business is that manufacturers are not always the best marketers or networkers.

          More to follow..................

          Mark
          J. Mark Choate
          7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

          "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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          • #6
            Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

            This is exciting indeed Mark, and thank you for both your visit to the facility and letting us know about it!
            John G Tucker
            Greg Tucker

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            • #7
              Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

              Good news, gentlemen,

              I heard from Karl Pepper this weekend and he and Ed Steele have worked out the details for handling the finishing and "middleman" portion of the tree development and are going forward! Karl will take the tree, finish it and handle the rawhide process. (Not sure if he is doing that or outsourcing it). So, the merger between GPD and Steele trees is going forward!

              For those of you who were interested in getting a tree or yours covered in rawhide for your own saddle project, I don't have any specific update. Perhaps you could contact Karl.

              regards,
              Mark
              J. Mark Choate
              7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

              "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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              • #8
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                To all,

                I promised that I would keep you updated as to how the effort by the Steele Saddle tree company was progressing.

                I got word today from Karl Pepper of Glen Pier Depot, that he has received the first shipment of trees from Ed Steele and he is very pleased with the quality and accuracy. They are now working on some different styles and adding some saddles that are not currently seen with frequency. They are taking each new style at a "one-at-a-time" basis to get the pattern just right. He is very optimistic.

                Some of you have asked me about the styles and a lot about the rawhiding that is being done. I think Karl is either doing it himself or contracting it out. I am not certain on that, but I suggest that if you have questions of a specific nature that you email Karl at klpepper@i2k.com

                Thank you for your interest.

                Mark
                J. Mark Choate
                7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

                "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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                • #9
                  Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

                  Is there any chance we might get to see some photos of the new trees?
                  John G Tucker
                  Greg Tucker

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                  • #10
                    Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

                    John,

                    I am fairly certain that Karl would be willing to send you a photo of the trees he is covering. I've got about all on my plate that I can deal with at the moment with the final details for the COI and then the Shiloh project the following week.

                    Drop him a note and see what he says.

                    regards,
                    Mark
                    J. Mark Choate
                    7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

                    "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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                    • #11
                      Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

                      Thanks Mark,
                      I will drop him a line. If I can get photos, and his permission to do so, I will post them here.
                      John Tucker
                      Greg Tucker

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                      • #12
                        Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

                        I received a prompt reply to my inquiries to Karl(He is a really nice guy). He informed me that the Jenny is scheduled for sometime around June. I think they are busy with Texas saddles at present.
                        John G Tucker
                        Greg Tucker

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                        • #13
                          Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

                          John,

                          Yes, I remembered that the Texas was going into production first. Was not sure when Jennie was scheduled but good to know.

                          You are correct, Karl is a fine fellow, indeed.

                          regards,
                          Mark
                          J. Mark Choate
                          7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

                          "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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                          • #14
                            Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

                            Mark and All,
                            Are these trees by the same maker as the few pictures in the other thread? Which tree is Karl planning to use? With all the post in the COI thread about the event, I was wondering if the tree pictured in the other thread was brought and looked at by those at the COI?
                            Rob Bruno
                            1st MD Cav
                            http://1stmarylandcavalry.com

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                            • #15
                              Re: Steele and Miller Saddlery

                              Hi Rob,

                              No, I don't think there have been any photos posted of the Steele trees. When I was up there they were still in very rough shape and it was the "finishing" phase that was uncertain. Now that Karl has completed that loop, things are moving forward.

                              I would suggest that if you want to message Karl, he might send photos. Once I get all of this stuff settled down with closing the COI and the Shiloh film, then I will contact him.

                              thanks,
                              Mark
                              J. Mark Choate
                              7th TN. Cavalry, Co. D.

                              "Let history dictate our impressions.......not the other way around!"

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